There was that discussion at last year's rug where they pointed production to 
their failover area.   Did the upgrade in production while everyone worked from 
the failover area and then switched back when the upgrade was complete.    More 
steps than this but you get the idea.
Teresa

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1

The only zero down time upgrade I am aware of is to not upgrade.

Tim


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tom Shurmur
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** 
Well, that is a bummer. But it's a cool idea if it ever comes fruition. 

Thank you all for you help.

Tom
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From: Rick Cook <remedyr...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1


** 
Well, either there is a huge conspiracy that involved wholesale changes to 
documents I read, or my memory is playing tricks on me.
I'm going with the conspiracy.  Nah, just kidding.  Must have been something I 
inferred from the overlay enhancements in 8.1.  Darn. 
Rick
On Jul 16, 2013 6:38 AM, "Longwing, Lj" <llongw...@usgs.gov> wrote:


        ** 
        can you point me to the URL that discusses 'zero downtime upgrades'?  I 
know that 8.1 wasn't released at last years rug, it was just 8.0, but I know 
that after the RUG David posted an idea 
(https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/1421) that is in a status of 'Under 
Consideration'....when they are available, it's changed to 'Delivered'....so 
all of the facts that I have currently available tell me that the demo we 
received last year isn't in a current code line...but if you could point me to 
docs to the contrary....I would love to see them.


        On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Rick Cook <remedyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
        

                ** 
                Might want to check the 8.1 documentation on that, LJ.  
                Rick
                On Jul 16, 2013 6:04 AM, "Longwing, Lj" <llongw...@usgs.gov> 
wrote:
                

                        ** 
                        Rick,
                        They were VERY careful to state at RUG last year that 
the code demonstrated was NOT in ANY code line available to the public....so 
no, it's NOT in 8.1, it is under consideration for a future release, but not in 
any currently available to the public release.


                        On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Rick Cook 
<remedyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
                        

                                ** 
                                No, Tauf, they have the code in 8.1.  But I 
don't think you can make that work unless you are upgrading FROM 8.1, not TO 
it. 
                                
                                Rick
                                On Jul 15, 2013 7:29 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" 
<taufc...@gmail.com> wrote:
                                

                                        ** 
                                        Tom, 
                                        If you're talking about the No Downtime 
session presented by BMC, it's not something that exists yet. It's something 
R&D is working on for the future. They wanted to see what kind of feedback that 
would have as sort of a litmus test. I could be wrong but that was my takeaway. 
Doug M was in that session and maybe he can go into more detail. 
                                        
                                        Sent from my iPhone

                                        On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:57 PM, Tom 
Shurmur <tsrem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
                                        
                                        

                                                ** 
                                                Howdy Listers,
                                                 
                                                We are about to embark on 
upgrading from 7.6.04 to 8.1 on a windows platform using MS-SQL. Has anyone 
used the No Downtime Upgrade method that was presented at last year’s WWRUG to 
move from 7.6.04 to 8.1? If so, was it smooth or bumpy ride?
                                                 
                                                We will be standing up a test 
system with 2 app VMs and a DB to test this approach.
                                                 
                                                I look forward to your feedback
                                                 
                                                Tom Shurmur
                                                Sr Remedy Developer
                                                Froedtert Health System
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