I would love to see this in action. I'm thinking it would have to be 8.1 and forward function. There are a lot of changes with the overlay functionality and SRM is a new beast. This capability would save a lot of us huge headaches.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Longwing, Lj <llongw...@usgs.gov> wrote: > ** > Brian, > It was actually really cool to watch the demo, they had it fully > functional. You needed a server group, you make all of your changes, all > of them, to include deleting columns, etc. You can connect to the admin > server in the server group to see the changes, work with the new workflow, > everything...the users remain on the other node(s) of the server group and > never see the changes...everything stored in the same db...then when all of > your functional testing is done you literally 'flip a switch' and the other > nodes in the server group arsignal, get the new cache, and it's 'in prod' > > At that point all that is needed I believe was a Mid-Tier cache flush, and > the users were using the new forms/workflow 'in an instant'... > > You of course still need all of your planning, testing, etc...but the zero > down time part was for the user. All of the work could be done during > business hours, no late night, evening, weekend work to get the new code in > place...it can all be done next to the current stuff...it was an amazing > demo. > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Brian Pancia <panc...@finityit.com>wrote: > >> Zero downtime. Now that is funny. It may be possible with months of >> planning, but more than likely you will still have some amount of downtime. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of teresa S Fannin >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:57 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 >> >> There was that discussion at last year's rug where they pointed >> production to their failover area. Did the upgrade in production while >> everyone worked from the failover area and then switched back when the >> upgrade was complete. More steps than this but you get the idea. >> Teresa >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:49 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 >> >> The only zero down time upgrade I am aware of is to not upgrade. >> >> Tim >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tom Shurmur >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:38 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 >> >> ** >> Well, that is a bummer. But it's a cool idea if it ever comes fruition. >> >> Thank you all for you help. >> >> Tom >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Rick Cook <remedyr...@gmail.com> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:30 AM >> Subject: Re: 7.6.04 Upgrade to 8.1 >> >> >> ** >> Well, either there is a huge conspiracy that involved wholesale changes >> to documents I read, or my memory is playing tricks on me. >> I'm going with the conspiracy. Nah, just kidding. Must have been >> something I inferred from the overlay enhancements in 8.1. Darn. >> Rick >> On Jul 16, 2013 6:38 AM, "Longwing, Lj" <llongw...@usgs.gov> wrote: >> >> >> ** >> can you point me to the URL that discusses 'zero downtime >> upgrades'? I know that 8.1 wasn't released at last years rug, it was just >> 8.0, but I know that after the RUG David posted an idea ( >> https://communities.bmc.com/ideas/1421) that is in a status of 'Under >> Consideration'....when they are available, it's changed to >> 'Delivered'....so all of the facts that I have currently available tell me >> that the demo we received last year isn't in a current code line...but if >> you could point me to docs to the contrary....I would love to see them. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Rick Cook <remedyr...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> ** >> Might want to check the 8.1 documentation on that, LJ. >> Rick >> On Jul 16, 2013 6:04 AM, "Longwing, Lj" < >> llongw...@usgs.gov> wrote: >> >> >> ** >> Rick, >> They were VERY careful to state at RUG last year >> that the code demonstrated was NOT in ANY code line available to the >> public....so no, it's NOT in 8.1, it is under consideration for a future >> release, but not in any currently available to the public release. >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Rick Cook < >> remedyr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> ** >> No, Tauf, they have the code in 8.1. But >> I don't think you can make that work unless you are upgrading FROM 8.1, not >> TO it. >> >> Rick >> On Jul 15, 2013 7:29 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" >> <taufc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> ** >> Tom, >> If you're talking about the No >> Downtime session presented by BMC, it's not something that exists yet. It's >> something R&D is working on for the future. They wanted to see what kind of >> feedback that would have as sort of a litmus test. I could be wrong but >> that was my takeaway. Doug M was in that session and maybe he can go into >> more detail. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:57 PM, Tom >> Shurmur <tsrem...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> ** >> Howdy Listers, >> >> We are about to embark on >> upgrading from 7.6.04 to 8.1 on a windows platform using MS-SQL. Has anyone >> used the No Downtime Upgrade method that was presented at last year’s WWRUG >> to move from 7.6.04 to 8.1? 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