Based on the further analysis by Fred...I withdraw my hypothesis...I was shooting from the hip....you can miss quite often like that :D LOL....
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net> wrote: > ** > > @@: LJ Longwing,**** > > ** ** > > That sounds like it may probably be the reason why they may have not > included $FIELDHELP$ (good reverse analysis..) – except that the help > cumulatively does get loaded and can be seen if you press the Help toolbar > if made available on the Mid-Tier on the form (see Fredrick’s related email) > **** > > ** ** > > Hypothetically assuming you are right on the reason, I think they should > implement it anyway, and leave it to the developer to decide if he wants to > or not have help associated with his objects. Let the developer worry about > its impact to the system as afar as performance is concerned. Let it be > known that the more help you have associated with your fields and your > forms, the thicker they get and the bigger your network packets would get. > **** > > ** ** > > @@: Fredrick Grooms**** > > Yes I did notice that the Help on the toolbar does load ALL the help > defined on all the fields of the form. So that makes you wonder why wasn’t > it available for $FIELDHELP$ if the Help was available in that generic way. > **** > > ** ** > > @@: Natlalie**** > > I concur completely. Not making a feature available altogether for > performance reasons (IF that is the reason why it was not made available) > sound unreasonable. Again I know LJ is only sporting a guess (a good one at > that), its like implementing a hard limit to number of searches you can > develop in set field if or push field if actions because searches if > implemented badly could be a dangerous thing too.. But then how useful > would a system be if such a limitation were imposed?**** > > ** ** > > Joe**** > > ** ** > > PS: I’m now really curious to know why this is not available now!**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Longwing, Lj > > *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 4:09 PM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Sort of a Rant: Quote from Dev Studio Help - "Web > applications do not support the $FIELDHEL$ keyword" - WHY???**** > > ** ** > > ** **** > > No, I don't know the answer to which you seek...but I can > hypothesize?....:)**** > > ** ** > > Ok...so field help can be 'bulky' at times....and the client (web browser) > doesn't keep a copy of the form in question in the same way that the user > tool did...so to try to keep the communication size between > client/mid-tier/server as small as possible, as well as keep the Mid-Tier > cache smaller, it was decided to not include the 'help' for each and every > field on each and every form in cache, and transferred across the wire**** > > ** ** > > just a guess though...I certainly don't work for, nor represent BMC on > this, nor ANY matter....but my explanation makes sense to ME :)**** > > ** ** > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net> wrote:*** > * > > ** **** > > Does anyone know the reason why the Mid-Tier is unable to support the > $FIELDHELP$ keyword? The help on this keyword states that “Web applications > do not support the $FIELDHELP$ keyword; it returns NULL.”**** > > **** > > Any reason why this would have been hard to implement on the Mid-Tier?**** > > **** > > I was hoping to use it on a very small form wherein I could set > $FIELDHELP$ to a temp display only field on every gain focus action of a > field, displaying the help of that field in that display only field. Works > like a charm on the User tool, however it does not on the Mid-Tier because > of this said limitation of the said keyword.**** > > **** > > With the impending slow death of the thick client, it would have been nice > to have features such as this available at the Mid-Tier level as well.**** > > **** > > If you ask me this feature would have been more useful on the web for > intuitive field help for a end user, than it is on a native thick client.. > **** > > **** > > Joe**** > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ **** > > ** ** > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ **** > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
