Hi Rick!

You are right about the comparison between ITIL and COBIT, but COBIT, like
ITIL, is a framework, not a solution to the problem.

Back when the dinosaurs were still roaming the earth, I once did COBIT 4.1
foundation and found that it had some merit, and a couple of good things to
go and implement, but, like ITIL, it's bloated with some superfluous
academic surrealism that you have to filter out for yourself to make it work
in real life. 
The foundation exam, like the ITIL foundation exam, is dumbed down to test
your thought processes, grammar and comprehension of the English language
with questions referring to the subject, rather than your knowledge and
recollection of the subject matter itself, making it fall-out-of-a-tree easy
to pass the foundation exam. 

That said, I would still recommend doing both ITIL and COBIT as both have
some good pointers in the right direction.

I remember walking out of the COBIT exam, thinking that it would be a great
idea to publish a book that combines the best of ITIL and COBIT whilst
aligning them, but got busy at work and never got round to it. 
The good news is that there are folks at ISACA who also had the same idea:
http://www.isaca.org/KNOWLEDGE-CENTER/RESEARCH/RESEARCHDELIVERABLES/Pages/CO
BIT-Mapping-Mapping-of-ITIL-V3-With-COBIT-4-11.aspx
http://www.isaca.org/Knowledge-Center/Research/ResearchDeliverables/Pages/Al
igning-COBIT-4-1-ITIL-V3-and-ISO-IEC-27002-for-BusinessBenefit.aspx

In short:
-COBIT is about defining and managing IT processes in general.
-ITIL is about managing the IT support shop specifically.
-They overlap in some areas and you have to align them yourself.
-Do COBIT to compliment your SOX compliance.

Best Regards,
Theo
 

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Subject: Opinions on COBIT

Hi all-

Lately I have seen several references to COBIT and being unfamiliar with it
I did some quick research. My take is that in some ways it complements ITIL
and in other ways "competes" with ITIL at some level.
I am very interested to hear what the fine folks on the list have to say
about COBIT, especially anyone who is currently following the COBIT
framework (or has in the past).

If you prefer to contact me off-list with your thoughts I'm fine with that
although I have a feeling that everyone could benefit from the responses.


Thanks in advance,
Rick

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