Thanks Theo, I will check out those links. I am not on a path to take the exams, I just need to get some info on COBIT besides just the party line.
Thanks, Rick On Nov 26, 2013 10:59 PM, "Theo Fondse (Gmail)" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rick! > > You are right about the comparison between ITIL and COBIT, but COBIT, like > ITIL, is a framework, not a solution to the problem. > > Back when the dinosaurs were still roaming the earth, I once did COBIT 4.1 > foundation and found that it had some merit, and a couple of good things to > go and implement, but, like ITIL, it's bloated with some superfluous > academic surrealism that you have to filter out for yourself to make it > work > in real life. > The foundation exam, like the ITIL foundation exam, is dumbed down to test > your thought processes, grammar and comprehension of the English language > with questions referring to the subject, rather than your knowledge and > recollection of the subject matter itself, making it fall-out-of-a-tree > easy > to pass the foundation exam. > > That said, I would still recommend doing both ITIL and COBIT as both have > some good pointers in the right direction. > > I remember walking out of the COBIT exam, thinking that it would be a great > idea to publish a book that combines the best of ITIL and COBIT whilst > aligning them, but got busy at work and never got round to it. > The good news is that there are folks at ISACA who also had the same idea: > > http://www.isaca.org/KNOWLEDGE-CENTER/RESEARCH/RESEARCHDELIVERABLES/Pages/CO > BIT-Mapping-Mapping-of-ITIL-V3-With-COBIT-4-11.aspx > > http://www.isaca.org/Knowledge-Center/Research/ResearchDeliverables/Pages/Al > igning-COBIT-4-1-ITIL-V3-and-ISO-IEC-27002-for-BusinessBenefit.aspx > > In short: > -COBIT is about defining and managing IT processes in general. > -ITIL is about managing the IT support shop specifically. > -They overlap in some areas and you have to align them yourself. > -Do COBIT to compliment your SOX compliance. > > Best Regards, > Theo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Westbrock > Sent: 27 November 2013 00:08 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Opinions on COBIT > > Hi all- > > Lately I have seen several references to COBIT and being unfamiliar with it > I did some quick research. My take is that in some ways it complements ITIL > and in other ways "competes" with ITIL at some level. > I am very interested to hear what the fine folks on the list have to say > about COBIT, especially anyone who is currently following the COBIT > framework (or has in the past). > > If you prefer to contact me off-list with your thoughts I'm fine with that > although I have a feeling that everyone could benefit from the responses. > > > Thanks in advance, > Rick > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the > Answers > Are, and have been for 20 years" > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
