Natalie,
I think you're best bet is to connect to the custom DB and then create a new 
universe with only the tables you want. You will get optimal performance that 
way without including all the unnecessary objects from the ITSM universe. 


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> On Mar 17, 2014, at 11:27 AM, "Stroud, Natalie K" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> **
> That’s part of what we were looking for – thanks, Terry!  J
>  
> Natalie
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:19 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] BO and Analytics
>  
> **
> Hi Natalie et al:
> 
> Not sure if this was mentioned prior, but I thought I would kick in this 
> license entitlement just for everyone's information.
>  
> When using the BOXI provided by BMC as part of the Analytics solution, you 
> are restricted as to it's use.  It is mentioned below as taken from the 
> online docs.
>  
> Accessing non-BMC data
> 
> The BMC Analytics for BSM license provides the ability for the licensee to 
> use the SAP Business Objects technology embedded in BMC Analytics for BSM for 
> the purpose of accessing data from BMC products.   It does not provide the 
> ability to use the product as a standalone enterprise Business Intelligence 
> system outside the context of BMC products.   All data accessed by BMC 
> Decision Insights must either come from BMC products directly or if there is 
> data from non-BMC products, this data must be presented in context of BMC 
> data.   
> 
> For example:
> 
> it would be acceptable to use BMC Analytics for BSM to create a report that 
> shows incident ticket information (from BMC product) as well as the cost 
> center of the person logging the ticket (from a non-BMC data source).
> It would NOT be acceptable to create a report of employees and their cost 
> centers (from non-BMC data source and not in context of BMC data)
>  
> Hope this helps in some small way..
>  
> Terry
>  
> on Mar 17, 2014, Stroud, Natalie K <[email protected]> wrote:
> **
> Yes, Tauf:  You’re correct that ITSM is not installed on our custom apps 
> server.
>  
> And Keith:  Our BO license is for BMC Analytics.  So I guess that makes it an 
> OEM?    We do already have a linked universe for some extra data related to 
> ITSM such as KM, Kinetic Survey data, some extra date variables to allow 
> querying incident data by our Fiscal Year and Fiscal Quarter, etc.  I, too, 
> am curious as to an answer to Tauf’s question.  Does adding our custom app 
> data to our linked universe make sense when the data is not directly 
> ITSM-related and located on a completely separate server to boot?
>  
> Natalie Stroud
> SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories
> ARS-ITSM Reporting Specialist
> Albuquerque, NM USA
> [email protected]
> ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008
>  
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: BO and Analytics
>  
> **
> Keith,
> From reading Natalie's question, she states that her custom AR app is on a 
> different box than ITSM. I'm assuming then, that the custom instance does not 
> have ITSM installed. If that's the case, why create a linked universe off the 
> base ITSM universe? From my exp it adds a performance overhead. 
> If it's a pure custom instance without ITSM, does it make sense? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Keith Parker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> **
> Good evening, 
> Business Analytics is a BMC product that contains a custom universe and 
> reports. These reports run on the SAP Business Objects platform and enable 
> reporting against your ITSM database.  
>  
> It is possible to customize your universe so that you can report on the 
> customizations you have built in, thus expanding the functionality. 
>  
> The reason you use BA is several reasons: Most large companies use Business 
> Objects for their analytical reporting needs and this ties in nicely with 
> that enterprise solution.  It also enables you to set up a reporting database 
> thereby reducing the impact of running reports against your production 
> database.
>  
> Natalie - My recommendation is to use the OTB universe and create a linked 
> universe for customizations.  There are a lot of things built in to the OTB 
> universe that makes your life a lot easier than building one from scratch. 
>  
> The universe will not touch your apps.  It will be linked directly to the db 
> you wish to use for reports. It will require access to the AR server for 
> authentication (in order to run an analytics report you have be an active 
> support member - this is a security feature). So I don't think this will 
> affect your licensing - someone else may know, but I don't think there is a 
> license for BA.
>  
> If you are running the OEM version of BO you will have to license that from 
> BMC and I think you can get per user licensing. If you have the SAP 
> enterprise BO that will be licensed from SAP and I believe their licensing is 
> by cpu.
>  
> In our setup - we actually have multiple connections so we can run reports 
> against all our environments (dev, test, prod...) this is very useful for 
> testing installs and customizations.  
>  
> Hope this helps
>  
>  
>  
> Keith Parker 
> FAA ATO-IT
> Business Analytics and  Remedy Dashboards 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:12 PM, "Stroud, Natalie K" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> **
> Roger (or anyone else who is on the List and is responding to questions 
> today):
>  
> I know this is an older message you posted, but what do you mean by a “BMC 
> Universe”?  Does that mean the universe has to have been created by BMC, like 
> the Analytics Universe is?  Or does it just mean that the data needs to come 
> from a BMC product?  
>  
> My reason for asking is that we are interested in being able to create 
> Analytics reports on one of our custom Remedy apps, and it sounds like that’s 
> possible from a technical standpoint, but I am trying to confirm the 
> licensing standpoint.  For whatever it may be worth, I’m pretty sure we have 
> just a Professional BO license, because I know we’d be running Crystal 
> Reports via the mid-tier if we had the Premium.
>  
> Also, our custom Remedy apps are located on a different server than our ITSM 
> server, which is, of course where our ITSM Universe points to.  Does anyone 
> know whether the Analytics/BO licensing limits how many different servers 
> universes can be created from?  My teammate who works with our ITSM Universe 
> *thinks* this is allowed, but we’d like to hear if anyone knows for sure.
>  
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>  
> Natalie Stroud
> SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories
> ARS-ITSM Reporting Specialist
> Albuquerque, NM USA
> [email protected]
> ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008
>  
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 1:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: BO and Analytics
>  
> ** Analytics the the BMC Name that includes the ARS/other BMC Universes that 
> BO needs to be able to create reports. Also Analytics includes BO that has a 
> limited use license that only allows BMC Universes to be used.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: patrick zandi <[email protected]>
> To: arslist <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 7, 2014 2:57 pm
> Subject: Re: BO and Analytics
> 
> **
> I believe they do the same things, however it is who is using the application 
> that makes the diff...  
> ANA is basically analytical reporting -- it can email and post to sharepoint 
> reports.. as well. (nice feature)..
> ARS 8.1 can also do the Adhoc, and Bert reports by time as well.. CR is for 
> reporting with pretty formats.. etc Like ANA but does not email or sharepoint 
> them.
> Also CR can be used on the web for web based reporting as well.
> There are alot of minor differences, but with CR developer you can also just 
> create an RPT and plop it into the report form and anyone can use it with the 
> usertool.. Crystal reports viewer application (desktop app) can use it too...
> just depends who and for what are you using it.
> 
> IMHO
>  
> 
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:51 PM, patrick zandi <[email protected]> wrote:
> https://communities.bmc.com/thread/30501    might be where you want to go.
>  
> 
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Sweety <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Experts,
> 
> I heard that BO can be used for reporting then why do we need BMC Analytics ?
> 
> How Analytics is different than BO ? How they are related to each other ?
> 
> What is the role of BO in BMC Analytics ?
> 
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