My plan was to come on Sunday and leave on Saturday. I planned on attending the certification sessions. They are not even worth it!
Dan, how can we give them the benefit of the doubt? They have had since 2009 to watch and learn how to do it from the Masters!! People that managed to hold down a full time job and do the conference! They even appear to have hired a company to do all the heavy lifting for them! I know you probably have to be supportive, the rest of us don’t. It is extremely disappointing. I talked this up to a co-worker who was also going to ask to attend this year. There is one CMDB session (maybe 2?). How can he justify the expense!? I was looking forward to this because it was sort of like “going home again”. The RUG that was held there before was so full of great memories and learning that I really wanted it to be good! Then again that conference had you, Rick Cook, Warren Baltimore, Pat Zandi, Kim Moody, Phil Bautista and a host of other really awesome people to learn from! The conversations were both entertaining and very educational! Remember the ARSLIST party in the Sushi Restaurant! Very well attended and lots of fun! “Look for the bright pink sign that says ARSLIST” The midnight raid of the vending machines, the trip 10 miles away to purchase beverages. I am starting to feel old! From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of arslist Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ENGAGE ** They may be busy but I look at the sessions and still struggle to see any technical depth for the BMC Remedy area. It might be there but with the naming of sessions I can’t tell. That being said, and of course I am biased, let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. After all, BMC hasn’t done a North American conference since 2007, so they are probably working hard to get it right. Everyone gave us the benefit of the doubt in 2009, or at least a couple of hundred of you did ☺ As for Evening sessions, Evening with Engineering has been on their schedule since day one, unique and important and worth attending the conference just for it! For additional interesting networking, stay tuned, something will be worked out ….. How many are arriving Sunday (or before) or leaving after Thursday? I am giving up Canadian Thanksgiving Monday to be there, I need it to be worthwhile! Cheers … Dan From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: July 28, 2014 7:51 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: ENGAGE ** I think they are busy planning the conference. Rick On Jul 28, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** Yep, or a justin.tv<http://justin.tv> (which has a chat). Could be doable :) On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel like, or small breakouts or something... Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this... Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something? So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and whatever? We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could be a problem with BMC rules though). On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing Consultant On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM: http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)? On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering or the other evening activities go? Will they even have them? Rick On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** Not impressed. My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World. We haven't missed you all these years. Maybe I need to just let it soak in for a day or two?.?.?. Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few presentations by customers. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** Just shaking my head… From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of laurent matheo Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: ENGAGE ** It seems the list is on now: http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: You are certainly trusting Terry! I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate. I can see it now… ME: Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is. There is an early bird discount!!! DIR: Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend. ME: Big Sigh… From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: ENGAGE ** Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that $75! Hehe Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st. So, if the agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire". However, I had to make a call last week, so I registered and paid for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee. Well, we'll see about that. :-) Terry ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: ENGAGE ** I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: ENGAGE ** They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their conference desk. We are adults. We should be able to make our own reservations. If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get approval. I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it became WWRUG! From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Miller Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: ENGAGE ** I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel arrangements than BMC. Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on this conference. Jason On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of marketing. Is this even worth going to? 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