Well said Claire.

> On 29 Jul 2014, at 06:02, "Sanford, Claire" 
> <claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
> 
> **
> My plan was to come on Sunday and leave on Saturday.  I planned on attending 
> the certification sessions.  They are not even worth it!  
> 
> Dan, how can we give them the benefit of the doubt?  They have had since 2009 
> to watch and learn how to do it from the Masters!! People that managed to 
> hold down a full time job and do the conference!   They even appear to have 
> hired a company to do all the heavy lifting for them!  I know you probably 
> have to be supportive, the rest of us don’t.  It is extremely disappointing.  
> I talked this up to a co-worker who was also going to ask to attend this 
> year.  There is one CMDB session (maybe 2?).   How can he justify the 
> expense!?  
> 
> I was looking forward to this because it was sort of like “going home again”. 
>  The RUG that was held there before was so full of great memories and 
> learning that I really wanted it to be good! 
>  
> Then again that conference had you,  Rick Cook, Warren Baltimore, Pat Zandi, 
> Kim Moody, Phil Bautista and a host of other really awesome people to learn 
> from! The conversations were both entertaining and very educational!
> 
> Remember the ARSLIST party in the Sushi Restaurant!  Very well attended and 
> lots of fun!  “Look for the bright pink sign that says ARSLIST”  The midnight 
> raid of the vending machines, the trip 10 miles away to purchase beverages.   
> I am starting to feel old!
> 
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:30 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> They may be busy but I look at the sessions and still struggle to see any 
> technical depth for the BMC Remedy area. It might be there but with the 
> naming of sessions I can’t tell.
>  
> That being said, and of course I am biased, let’s give them the benefit of 
> the doubt. After all, BMC hasn’t done a North American conference since 2007, 
> so they are probably working hard to get it right.
> Everyone gave us the benefit of the doubt in 2009, or at least a couple of 
> hundred of you did J
>  
> As for Evening sessions, Evening with Engineering has been on their schedule 
> since day one, unique and important and worth attending the conference just 
> for it!
> For additional interesting networking, stay tuned, something will be worked 
> out …..
>  
> How many are arriving Sunday (or before)  or leaving after Thursday?
>  
> I am giving up Canadian Thanksgiving Monday to be there, I need it to be 
> worthwhile!
>  
> Cheers … Dan
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
> Sent: July 28, 2014 7:51 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> I think they are busy planning the conference. 
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" <taufc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote:
> **
> Yep, or a justin.tv (which has a chat).
> Could be doable :)
> 
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <taufc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> **
> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can 
> set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote:
> **
> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
> like, or small breakouts or something...
> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...
> 
> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
> it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use 
> the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
> 
> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
> whatever?
> 
> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that 
> could be a problem with BMC rules though).
> 
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <taufc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> **
> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached 
> out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love 
> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <taufc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker 
> pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing 
> Consultant
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote:
> **
> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
> 
> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So 
> or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you 
> attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
> 
> 
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <remedyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> **
> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering or 
> the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <jason.mil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We 
> haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in for 
> a day or two?.?.?.
>  
> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few presentations 
> by customers.
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
> <claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
> **
> Just shaking my head…
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
> 
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> 
>  
> **
> It seems the list is on now:
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
> 
> 
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
> <claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
> 
> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>  
> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can 
> see it now… 
> 
> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for 
> almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  
> There is an early bird discount!!!
> 
> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions 
> are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>  
> ME:  Big Sigh…
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that 
> $75! Hehe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma <tboot...@objectpath.com> wrote:
> 
> **
> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out 
> today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>  
> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
> conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain 
> date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>  
> Terry
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
> Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
> 
> **
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we 
> have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing 
> that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
> reservations.  
> 
> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
> approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
> became WWRUG!
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
> people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
> arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark 
> on this conference.
>  
> Jason
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan <david_boy...@brown.edu> wrote:
> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
> marketing.
> 
> Is this even worth going to?
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
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