Howard, Those are great points you just made. However, those points reaffirm the disappointment people are feeling. You went to WWRUG last year and found out about BMC's direction, got a sneak peak at Project Galileo and it helped you make some key decisions in your organization. In addition, there were a plethora of technical sessions at the RUG as well. There's no reason that you can't have both technical and strategic marketing sessions at the same conference. Obviously BMC understands this as they were a major sponsor of the WWRUG. Maybe the one glimmer of hope that we have is that in the Session Catalog, it states "Subject to change" at the bottom. I would hope that with the groundswell of criticism they are facing from an important forum such as this, BMC would restructure some of these sessions and include a few more technical papers that by all assumptions have been "rejected." It may be why they haven't sent out any notices to folks that were rejected.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta) < [email protected]> wrote: > ** > > Last year when I attended RUG, I was able to get a sneak peak at Galileo. > That look, plus an understating of the direction BMC was moving give me > insight which helped form our mobile direction in the world of ITSM. > > > > I do agree, that there should be some technical sessions. However, if I > don’t understand the direction that BMC is going (which I do help to see > more of), how can I help with the planning of our companies direction as > well as my own future. > > > > Remember that there are companies knocking on the doors of BMC customers > and we need as a community understand how they responding. > > > > As Sun Tzu said, > > The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, > but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. > > > > > > Howard > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Danny Kellett > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:49 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [arslist] ENGAGE > > > > ** > > Jason > > > > It's a hard sell spending a lot of money to justify attending just for > networking though. I'm a little disappointed, I really enjoyed last year > > > > Kind regards > > Danny > > > On 29 Jul 2014, at 01:41, Jason Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > ** > > I'll be there too also to network. It will be hard for BMC to screw up > the networking. That is unless none of the usual suspects attend and there > is nobody to network with. I guess worst case I buy tickets to the parks > and enjoy the week. > > > > So Dan... Where is WWRUG15 going to be? > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> > wrote: > > ** > > Ha! I was totally thinking of calling the hotel to see if they had a > single room available to rent. All I need is electricity and I'm good! > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Jason Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > ** > > Maybe we'll just need to kidnap Engineering and bring them to our > sub-conference that we'll be forced to create ourselves that week. > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote: > > ** > > And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering > or the other evening activities go? Will they even have them? > > Rick > > On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <[email protected]> wrote: > > ** > > Not impressed. My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World. We > haven't missed you all these years. Maybe I need to just let it soak in > for a day or two?.?.?. > > > > Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few > presentations by customers. > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire < > [email protected]> wrote: > > ** > > Just shaking my head… > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo > *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM > > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE > > > > ** > > It seems the list is on now: > http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda > > > On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > You are certainly trusting Terry! > > > > I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate. I can > see it now… > > ME: Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone > for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content > is. There is an early bird discount!!! > > DIR: Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you > sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend. > > > > ME: Big Sigh… > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Tauf > Chowdhury > *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE > > > > ** > > Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that > $75! Hehe > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma <[email protected]> > wrote: > > ** > > I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st. So, if the agenda is out > today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire". > > > > However, I had to make a call last week, so I registered and paid for the > conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain > date with a $75.00 "admin" fee. Well, we'll see about that. :-) > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Lynn > Larsen > *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE > > ** > > I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that > we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” > pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my > opinion. > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, > Claire > *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE > > > > ** > > They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their > conference desk. We are adults. We should be able to make our own > reservations. > > If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can > get approval. I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was > before it became WWRUG! > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jason > Miller > *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE > > > > ** > > I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving > people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel > arrangements than BMC. 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