Agreed. Here are my 2 cents :
1. BPM tools are generally do not have UI playground. They are designed for "Business Process Modelling" Thus, one might not alter UI behaviour or add new forms, but one might significantly build a business process superfast. 2. Many a times, processes given by business and "we the developers" who implement it - we have a large gap. We cannot even understand each other and BPM tools are great way by bridging this gap to a certain extend. 3. Each tool requires time to evolve. PD is not widely used tool, but part of the reason is also in reluctance to try out new things. To me PD offers Transparency of the code that filters are so desperately lagging. We should not confuse PD - thinking with it we can build complete application. PD helps in a great way to *extend* applications, to standardize processes across company, to help automating processes. Some of the PD use cases : * Take SRM Services off line for a service outage requested in a Change Request. * New Hire On boarding * Off-boarding * IT Process like Printer Problem Resolution * Complex Approval Flow * Request or order service like new cell phone or development VM * Travel Request * HR Processes * Major Incident Handling * Incident - Create a Problem Investigation when multiple Incidents are created for the same service in the same day. Please help me with your thoughts around it. -Raj From: John Baker-4 [via ARS (Action Request System)] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 21:35 To: Hiremath, Raj Subject: BMC Support / On Site Visits > I don't think BMC is any better or worse than these other platforms in terms > of trying to make simple flowcharts create complex code behind the scenes. Plenty of companies have tried to build these tools and they have almost all ended in producing poor quality solutions. Even the Java world has been subjected to Business Process Management tools written in crappy Eclipse plugins, trying to solve problems that a half decent developer could solve in a few minutes with a standard Eclipse IDE and Java or Python. The tools available for writing source code gets easier to use on an almost daily basis, so why try to fight the mainstream approach to solving problems? Give me an hour and I'll produce a highly scalable, transactional, Java application that works with three common databases, because the Spring framework has made life so easy for me. When I picked up my Java tools in 1997, this task was pretty much impossible. Same language, 15 years of progress, and such problems are no more. _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org<http://www.arslist.org> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" ________________________________ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/BMC-Support-On-Site-Visits-tp120353.html To start a new topic under ARS (Action Request System), email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To unsubscribe from ARS (Action Request System), click here<http://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=2&code=UmFqYXNoZWtoYXJfSGlyZW1hdGhAYm1jLmNvbXwyfC0xNDIxMzkxMzE0>. NAML<http://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> ----- -rAJ -- View this message in context: http://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/BMC-Support-On-Site-Visits-tp120353p120354.html Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
