just debating the facts with my other posts. trying not to lean one way or another. i think the benches are new and different. if they had backs on them id be happier though. all the lights in front of wesely grove seem to fade away into the building when you drive down the street. however, the ones on the avenues flowining onto ocean ave might not blend in as nicely, as werneer pointed out, about open views. the ones on ocean ave will also fade away i tihnk, once the pavillions are re done, giving your eye something else to graviate toawards. also when the "rides" fill in the empty space areas. i think all the lights give the area a more people friendly atmosphere. something i think was part of the goal. people level lights, in attempts to make the streets feel more welcoming to walkers.
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