(Google Groups once again ate my reply, so this reply will be
shorter...probably for the best :))

On Dec 4, 6:26 pm, Stuart Rackham <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thank you for this generous offer, I'd love to move AsciiDoc to it's own
> domain, it's been hanging off my site to long -- just a time and
> resources issue on my part. It's well past time AsciiDoc had it's own
> domain.

+1

I think that's a sign of a certain level of success for a project.

>
> I would prefer someone else/others to manage the domains, Dan's the
> obvious choice, but this is something the community needs to address (I
> don't know how this sort of stuff is done, but we don't want to lose
> control the domain names in the future).

I think we can model after communities like Fedora and manage the
resource collectively. See phased approach proposal below. We can
stick sensitive data (like account credentials) in a shared document
(such as Google Docs).

>
> I'm stretched to thin to take anything else on at the moment (I've been
> AWOL from the discussion list for a while now, but will get back to it
> hopefully soon :-)

I'm pretty stretched too, so I'll do what I can to help out, but I
think if we get a few things setup we should be able to automate or
offload most of the work / responsibility.

>
> To get the ball rolling I can change the docs and the website content to
> point to asciidoc.org. Longer term I'd like to offload the website
> administration to others -- shouldn't be to onerous the website itself
> is in the repo and the AsciiDoc AAP build scripts rebuild and upload the
> website.

I think the key is to get the website source into hg or git and host
the site on a free PaaS. The first makes it a collaboration, rather
than coordination problem, and the second just saves all kinds of
headaches and enables easy automation.

Eventually we'd like to get to a truly community-driven website for
AsciiDoc, but that won't happen overnight. I see this as a phased
approach.

Phase 1: Reserve the domain names and point them at the methods.co.nz
server using a 301 redirect (done)
- keep in mind, this does not allow for deep linking, like
asciidoc.org/userguide.html

Phase 2: Setup a virtual host on methods.co.nz for asciidoc.org /
asciidoc.info so that we can use deep linking on this domains (in
progress - Stuart and Dan)

Phase 3: Import the website source into git or hg (preferably at
GitHub, BitBucket or similar) and publish the website to a free PaaS
(GitHub pages, Heroku, OpenShift, etc) using a CI tool (Jenkins, etc)

Phase 4: Make the website (at least the home page) more inviting,
informative and attractive to the various types of AsciiDoc users
(essentially a rebranding).

Each phase gets more ambitious, and it will all take time. Phase 2 is
the most important in the short term because it allows us to use the
new domains w/ deep linking.

Keep in mind these phases are just a proposal. I welcome your feedback
or revisions.

Btw, does AsciiDoc have a wiki?

If we were to host the repository on GitHub or BitBucket, we could
leverage the wiki that is there. The phases I outlined would be a nice
thing to put on a wiki :)

* Bonus if the wiki supports AsciiDoc, like GitHub :)

-Dan

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