On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:48:08 AM UTC+1, Dan Allen wrote:
>
> (Google Groups once again ate my reply, so this reply will be 
> shorter...probably for the best :)) 
>
> On Dec 4, 6:26 pm, Stuart Rackham <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> > Thank you for this generous offer, I'd love to move AsciiDoc to it's own 
> > domain, it's been hanging off my site to long -- just a time and 
> > resources issue on my part. It's well past time AsciiDoc had it's own 
> > domain. 
>
> +1 
>
> I think that's a sign of a certain level of success for a project. 
>
> > 
> > I would prefer someone else/others to manage the domains, Dan's the 
> > obvious choice, but this is something the community needs to address (I 
> > don't know how this sort of stuff is done, but we don't want to lose 
> > control the domain names in the future). 
>
> I think we can model after communities like Fedora and manage the 
> resource collectively. See phased approach proposal below. We can 
> stick sensitive data (like account credentials) in a shared document 
> (such as Google Docs). 
>
> > 
> > I'm stretched to thin to take anything else on at the moment (I've been 
> > AWOL from the discussion list for a while now, but will get back to it 
> > hopefully soon :-) 
>
> I'm pretty stretched too, so I'll do what I can to help out, but I 
> think if we get a few things setup we should be able to automate or 
> offload most of the work / responsibility. 
>
> > 
> > To get the ball rolling I can change the docs and the website content to 
> > point to asciidoc.org. Longer term I'd like to offload the website 
> > administration to others -- shouldn't be to onerous the website itself 
> > is in the repo and the AsciiDoc AAP build scripts rebuild and upload the 
> > website. 
>
> I think the key is to get the website source into hg or git and host 
> the site on a free PaaS. The first makes it a collaboration, rather 
> than coordination problem, and the second just saves all kinds of 
> headaches and enables easy automation. 
>
> Eventually we'd like to get to a truly community-driven website for 
> AsciiDoc, but that won't happen overnight. I see this as a phased 
> approach. 
>
> Phase 1: Reserve the domain names and point them at the methods.co.nz 
> server using a 301 redirect (done) 
> - keep in mind, this does not allow for deep linking, like 
> asciidoc.org/userguide.html 
>
> Phase 2: Setup a virtual host on methods.co.nz for asciidoc.org / 
> asciidoc.info so that we can use deep linking on this domains (in 
> progress - Stuart and Dan) 
>
> Phase 3: Import the website source into git or hg (preferably at 
> GitHub, BitBucket or similar) and publish the website to a free PaaS 
> (GitHub pages, Heroku, OpenShift, etc) using a CI tool (Jenkins, etc) 
>
> Phase 4: Make the website (at least the home page) more inviting, 
> informative and attractive to the various types of AsciiDoc users 
> (essentially a rebranding). 
>
> Each phase gets more ambitious, and it will all take time. Phase 2 is 
> the most important in the short term because it allows us to use the 
> new domains w/ deep linking. 
>
> Keep in mind these phases are just a proposal. I welcome your feedback 
> or revisions. 
>
> Btw, does AsciiDoc have a wiki? 
>
> If we were to host the repository on GitHub or BitBucket, we could 
> leverage the wiki that is there. The phases I outlined would be a nice 
> thing to put on a wiki :) 
>
> * Bonus if the wiki supports AsciiDoc, like GitHub :) 
>

mmmh... Gollum ? ;) 

>
> -Dan 
>

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