On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 09:04, Dan Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 16:21 Lex Trotman <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>
>> Please don't take negative comments personally
>
>
> I don't take stuff personally. But I'm going to call out crap when I see it.
>
>> I am just stating the
>> facts as I understand them
>
>
> If you were really sincere about stating facts, you might have said:
>
> "I'm concerned this will exclude individuals. Can you respond?"

I posted an explanation of my understanding back in January,
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/asciidoc/zt5t8J8MEfk/pTvXbANsCQAJ  was
not even responded to with "I am busy will respond later".

>
> Instead, you decided to use it as an opportunity to sew doubt.

That is because I have doubt, as noted in that post, and since there
was no further correspondence I have no reason to think anything has
changed.

>
> I'm willing to move past it. I'll I'm asking is that we have fair discourse. 
> There's a way to raise concern without trying to score points or rim shots 
> (that goes for everyone, myself included). Let's stay on that high road. It 
> ensures the best outcome for the language.

We are having fair discourse, that doesn't mean we agree or see things
the same.  Its important to be honest and state what we believe, even
if that is in significant disagreement, that may turn out to be wrong
and can then be corrected by evidence or argument, or turn out to be
correct and accepted (lets face it in a specification development some
of it won't be "practically provable" since it won't exist yet so
there is going to be some argument along the way).  But disagreement
has to be stated or the process won't work.

Also being in different countries with different backgrounds we will
use English in different ways, its important that nobody in the
process applies their cultural bias to others statements, what you see
as "FUD", a term which here implies malice, I see as my understanding
of the situation and no indication of emotion.

>
>> and since there was not even a reply to my post on the topic much earlier in 
>> the year I can only assume nothing has changed.
>
>
> I addressed that in my earlier reply. Things happened in my life that I had 
> to deal with. I'm beyond that, and the working group will remove the single 
> point of failure once we get underway.

Happens to us all.

Lex

>
> -Dan
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