On 3/18/10 Mar 18 -5:11 PM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Faré <fah...@gmail.com > <mailto:fah...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > What about instead investing in XCVB? > > > As much as I would like to have something simplify my life, it is not my > choice to use one system or another. I was suggesting something that > might help rationalize the current library situation. > > > Such enforcement will necessarily introduce backward incompatibility > and pain, > which I think goes contrary to the goals of ASDF. > > > I am not talking about something that HAS to be enforced, but that it > can be optional. It is by no means a good coding practice to put things > in the *.asd file that do not belong in it. Promoting this message from > the ASDF development forum is not wrong by itself and need not cause any > pain at all -- a warning message somewhere in the build, explaining the > situation of the libraries in the system does not cause such a panic or > disrupture, does it?
Right. But do we have a clear understanding of what should and shouldn't go in there? E.g.: 1. currently if you need an ASDF extension in order to make a defsystem understandable (e.g., we have an extension that provides a new SYSTEM subclass to fit with our testing library), then you must put (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op <my extension>) in the .ASD file, and this is undesirable, I agree, but there's no workaround. 2. New class and method definitions. We don't have a good way to put them anywhere /but/ the .asd file for now. I see the point about good coding practice, but I feel weird about telling people to use good coding practice at the same time telling them they have to use bad (non-declarative) coding practice, because there's no alternative! Can you say more about what you'd like to do specifically? I don't want to discourage you from providing support for the sad lot of ASDF system definers ;-)! _______________________________________________ asdf-devel mailing list asdf-devel@common-lisp.net http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/asdf-devel
