The next step would be to add an ASDF plug-in so that ASDF can read its configuration from a CLAD set up…. :-)
-- Robert P. Goldman On June 3, 2023 at 16:56:53, Marco Antoniotti (marco.antonio...@unimib.it(mailto:marco.antonio...@unimib.it)) wrote: > Wellll. You need a CL to load ASDF, don’t you? :) > > CLAD is minimal and barebones. You can load it from two files (just because > the DEFPACKAGE is separate) and it’s there. Look ma! No ASDF! :) (Or UIOP) > > But I see your point. Time to add a clad-setup.lisp file. > > Cheers > > MA > > > > On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 at 23:10, Robert Goldman > <rpgold...@sift.info(mailto:rpgold...@sift.info)> wrote: > > > > I do like the idea of CLAD, but in this case isn't there a Catch-22? You > > need to configure ASDF in order to load CLAD, so you can't use CLAD to > > configure ASDF, can you? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3 Jun 2023, at 10:57, Marco Antoniotti wrote: > > > > > > > Ahem. Shameless plug: https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/mantoniotti/CLAD > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 5:28 PM Robert Goldman > > > <rpgold...@sift.info(mailto:rpgold...@sift.info)> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Greg, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the kind words! I am not sure why I didn't see your post on > > > > ASDF-devel, but I didn't. And I have seen several requests for > > > > moderation, so the list seems live. In case my response is interesting > > > > to the group, I am responding to the list as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > A couple of disclaimers: (1) I haven't used Windows in more than a > > > > decade, and (2) I don't use these configuration files. I find I'm > > > > happier to keep all of my lisp configuration in lisp configuration > > > > files (clinit.cl(http://clinit.cl), .sbclrc, etc. -- indeed I point all > > > > of those at one single lisp-config.lisp file), instead of having to > > > > hunt through multiple files in multiple locations for this information. > > > > So take anything I say with more than a grain of salt (given your > > > > cardiologist approves!). > > > > > > > > > > > > That said, these config files are placed according to the XDG standard > > > > which... as far as I can tell only applies to linux, and not to either > > > > Windows or MacOS. So there's code in ASDF/UIOP that extends XDG to > > > > other platforms. ASDF documentation about XDG can be found > > > > here(https://asdf.common-lisp.dev/asdf.html#XDG-base-directory). > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand Windows enough to understand this piece of text from > > > > the ASDF manual: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since support for querying the Windows registry is not possible to do > > > > > in reasonable amounts of portable Common Lisp code, ASDF 3 relies on > > > > > the environment variables that Windows usually exports, and are > > > > > hopefully in synch with the Windows registry. If you care about the > > > > > details, see uiop/configuration.lisp and don’t hesitate to suggest > > > > > improvements. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The relevant code may be found in > > > > uiop/configuration.lisp(https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/-/blob/release/uiop/configuration.lisp). > > > > It looks like invoking the functions uiop:xdg-config-home and > > > > uiop:xdg-config-pathnames might help you figure out where ASDF is > > > > looking. But I don't really understand the discussion about the > > > > registry above. I do see a bit of code that says that UIOP (and thus > > > > ASDF) look for configs in the value of (uiop:xdg-data-dirs "config/") > > > > -- maybe see what that evaluates to on your Windows box? > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that these snippets have been helpful, and if you find the > > > > answers you seek, please send to me and ASDF-devel, so that the > > > > information will be available to others. > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be a good thing if someone with the resources would gift a > > > > Windows resource to the CL Foundation to hook into > > > > common-lisp.net(http://common-lisp.net) so that the community doesn't > > > > have to rely on this kind of guesswork. I note that ASDF is no longer > > > > tested on Windows at all, since I don't have access to a Windows VM and > > > > even if I did, I wouldn't know how to use it (nor do I have the time to > > > > learn). > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > R > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 Jun 2023, at 19:40, Greg Bennett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good evening Robert, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some longish time ago you were kind enough to help me with ASDF > > > > > matters. > > > > > I posted recently to asdf-devel, largely in the hope that you might > > > > > see it, I confess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web search has, so far, not been helpful, I'm afraid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shall quite understand if you do not reply; your inbox must receive > > > > > lots of this sort of thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a test system in c:/ASDF/asdf-tests/ copied from the linux > > > > > directory /home/gwbennett/ASDF/asdf-tests/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under Linux in my source-registry.conf.d directory I have the file > > > > > gb-source.conf > > > > > with the one line (:tree "/home/gwbennett/ASDF/asdf-tests/") > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then in sbcl I can issue (asdf:load-system "gb-a") and all is well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried various spots for gb-source.conf under Windows, all > > > > > without success: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c:\Users\Greg\AppData\Local\config\common-lisp\source-registry.conf.d\ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c:\Users\Greg\ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c:\Users\Greg\AppData\ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c:\Users\Greg\AppData\Local\ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I issue, old style, (push "c:/ASDF/asdf-tests/" > > > > > asdf:*central-registry*) then all is well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps there is no place for a config file under W! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Marco Antoniotti > https://dcb.disco.unimib.it