C'da

> One extremely significant one:
>  Asssam has the most to lose. That simple!

Which could well be true. The IF one needs to take your arguments
seriously (even though there are political connotations), then

> >>I am sorry I cannot take your criticisms here as  either objective or
> >serious, >primarily because they are connected with an attempt to
> >politically link it with an >Assamese inability to  govern itself.

NOT also be taken seriously. Barua just has a different view point than yours!






On 9/12/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> RaM;
> 
> One extremely significant one:
> 
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> Asssam has the most to lose. That simple!
> 
> c-da
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> At 12:03 PM -0500 9/12/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> >C'da,
> >
> >>I am sorry I cannot take your criticisms here as  either objective or
> >serious, >primarily because they are connected with an attempt to
> >politically link it with an >Assamese inability to  govern itself.
> >
> >Even if one were to set aside the question of inability (or ability)
> >of governance, all this time, I have always felt that the River
> >Linking saga had political conotations.
> >
> >I am not saying that there shouldn't, but to say or think that
> >political overtones are one-sided is simply not true.
> >
> >China, B'desh, India, states within India, as well as different
> >factions within states all seem to have some political interest with
> >RL.
> >
> >Whats the difference?
> >
> >
> >On 9/12/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  Rajen:
> >>
> >>  I am sorry I cannot take your criticisms here as  either objective or
> >>  serious, primarily because they are connected with an attempt to 
> >> politically
> >>  link it with an Assamese inability to  govern itself.
> >>
> >>  That may be true of its establishment, but is not an universal truth. It 
> >> is
> >>  a back-door attempt at asserting something which is un-defendable 
> >> otherwise.
> >>
> >>  c
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  At 10:22 AM -0500 9/12/05, Rajen Barua wrote:
> >>  > You are 100% right--nobody discussed in the media YET..
> >>  Is not this pathetic for the Hobo Diok Assamese.
> >>  Nobody discussed this in the media YET (2005)
> >>  When they will discuss this.
> >>
> >>  I also have not seen any serious discussion on the Illegal Immigration to
> >>  Assam.
> >>  Please remember it is the Chief Election Commissioner of India who pointed
> >>  out Hey Assamese, you have a problem, After that I have not seen any
> >>  professional discussion or study by the Assamese
> >>  I see Assamese crying without even knowing the problem.
> >>
> >>  Two of the major problems of Assam: Illegal immigration and the 
> >> Brahmaputra
> >>  flood, and Assamese are yet to discuss scientifically!!.
> >>  Whither Assam and the Assamese?.
> >>  Hobo Diok
> >>  Rajen
> >>
> >>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>  From: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  Cc: <[email protected]>
> >>  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:18 AM
> >>  Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
> >>
> >>  > Baruah Sahab,
> >>  > You are 100% right--nobody discussed in the media YET..
> >>  > Yours truly said this all along 1970 on--but unteacheable Sorkaris won't
> >>  > listen.
> >>  > After my brother Chan introduced me onto NASA sites I cofirmed  MY
> >>  intuition
> >>  > through Floodtime and dry-season    ISS Photos.
> >>  > Basics on "Solid-carrying capacity of fluids" and of "Stream vs
> >>  > Sedimentation " confirm my understanding that * all River Islands will
> >>  keep
> >>  > growing with passing years
> >>  >                            * all meanders will erode and collapse 
> >> /advance
> >>  > inland at convex apices.
> >>  > The answer is a "First-ever correctioning". Will behave good for 
> >> millenia.
> >>  > Presented this to Govt of Assam to present to Manmohan.
> >>  > Texas Water Expert and his IAS In- Law and others strangled my
> >>  presentation.
> >>  > They may not have the last laugh.
> >>  >
> >>  > mm
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > >From: "Barua25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > >To: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > >CC: <[email protected]>
> >>  > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
> >>  > >Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:34:04 -0500
> >>  > >
> >>  > > > Do I see Sarcasm here?
> >>  > >
> >>  > >No I am 100% honest.
> >  > > >In the last 50 years of my experience, I have not seen a thing in any
> >>  > >Assamese media or any NGO discussing this.
> >>  > >Neither I have seen anything in this net.
> >>  > >I saw lots of discussion on River Linking Projects for saving Narmada 
> >> etc
> >>  > >but not a thing on Brahamaputra.
> >>  > >Again my question is there an authentic report on Brhamaputra Flood
> >>  Control
> >>  > >which is accepted by the scientific community or is it still under
> >  > debate?
> >>  > >  The next question will be if there is an professional report accepted
> >>  by
> >>  > >the scientific co community, why it is not Being implemented a or why
> >>  there
> >>  > >is no movement or lobby?
> >>  > >What is lacking?
> >>  > >
> >>  > >
> >>  > >Rajen
> >>  > >
> >>  > >----- Original Message -----
> >>  > >From: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > >Cc: <[email protected]>
> >>  > >Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:09 PM
> >>  > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
> >>  > >
> >>  > >
> >>  > > > <<Professional Report with feasibility study >>>
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > > Do I see Sarcasm here?
> >>  > > > You need to visit me  here for basic hydraulics.
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > > Re the Captioned items you will find loads quoted in Mishraji's
> >>  > >hilarious
> >>  > > > accounts of Govt vs Floods
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > > mm
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > > >From: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > > > >To: "mc mahant"
> >>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > > > >CC: <[email protected]>
> >>  > > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
> >>  > > > >Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:06:48 -0500
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > >  If and when The Luit is dug up rationally we will get 15 Lakh Ha
> >>  new
> >>  > > > >/Virgin
> >>  > > > > > farmland with
> >>  > > > > > massive crop yields.Communize these new Lands
> >>  > > > > > mm
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > >Dear MC:
> >>  > > > >I wonder if there is any professional Report with feasibility study
> >>  on
> >>  > >the
> >>  > > > >above proposal for public knowledge for ignorant guys like me.
> >>  > > > >How do I believe this is not another RIL scheme? Is there any lobby
> >>  > >going
> >>  > > > >on? How do I believe it is not another slogan?
> >>  > > > >Rajen
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > >----- Original Message -----
> >>  > > > >From: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > > > >Cc: <[email protected]>
> >>  > > > >Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:41 AM
> >>  > > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > > > Anupam,
> >>  > > > > > You discovered SCORES of Islands. There are Thousands.
> >>  > > > > > Mias went there because your ancestors did not know soil 
> >> nutrients
> >>  > > > >science.
> >>  > > > > > Mias also know nothing of that. They  have only these as their"
> >>  > > > > > Lebensraum".How did they get in?
> >>  > > > > > Majuli is no Island. Come to me -I shall show at Guahati
> >>  > > > > > If you are in USA you can see with Chan Mahanta
> >>  > > > > > If and when The Luit is dug up rationally we will get 15 Lakh Ha
> >>  new
> >>  > > > >/Virgin
> >>  > > > > > farmland with
> >>  > > > > > massive crop yields.Communize these new Lands
> >>  > > > > > mm
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > >From: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>  > > > > > >CC: [email protected]
> >>  > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
> >>  > > > > > >Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:03:29 +0530
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >From: anupom rajkhowa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  > > > > > > >To: [email protected]
> >>  > > > > > > >Subject: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
> >>  > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:44:52 -0700 (PDT)
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >I happen to travel from Dibrugarh to Tezpur by motorboat on 
> >> the
> >>  > > > >mighty
> >>  > > > > > > >Brahmaputra some time back on a documentary assignment. You
> >>  will
> >>  > >have
> >>  > > > >to
> >>  > > > > > > >see to believe the immense beauty and massiveness of the
> >>  natural
> >>  > > > >river
> >>  > > > > > > >islands. Assam is I think the only such place in India with
> >>  such
> >>  > >a
> >>  > > > >huge
> >>  > > > > > > >natural treasure. But beauty and richness apart, what shocked
> >  > me
> >>  > >was
> >>  > > > >the
> >>  > > > > > > >unending presence of Bangladeshi illegal immigrants on most 
> >> of
> >>  > >the
> >>  > > > >bigger
> >>  > > > > > > >islands including Majuli. And trust me, there are scores of
> >>  such
> >>  > > > >large
> >>  > > > > > > >sized islands. As these islands are hidden from the mainland,
> >>  > >these
> >>  > > > > > >illegal
> >>  > > > > > > >immigrants go unnoticed. And I was shocked to learn that most
> >  > of
> >>  > >them
> >>  > > > >are
> >>  > > > > > > >voters. These islands are very rich with natural manure and 
> >> as
> >>  a
> >>  > > > >result
> >>  > > > > > > >yield very rich organic crops. And the products are sold in 
> >> the
> >>  > > > >mainland.
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >Bangladeshi problem is the mother of all problems in Assam.
> >>  What
> >>  > >is
> >>  > > > >the
> >>  > > > > > > >solution? Another andolan?? But where is the leader?? I 
> >> wonder
> >>  > >what
> >>  > > > >ULFA
> >>  > > > > > > >plans on this front. But they have already made Dhaka their
> >>  > >capital
> >>  > > > >!!
> >>  > > > > > >What
> >>  > > > > > > >to do??
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >Anupom Rajkhowa
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >
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> >> effort.
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