Rajen:
>Or are we simply too
happy with the analysis of the problem?
*** What do you think? Are they, those who understand what is
wrong, happy
with it? Tell us, would you :-)?
>I would say that was a
very astude analysis and observation of the problem for Assam and the
>North East.
*** I take that as an endorsement on your part, an acceptance, of
the fundamentals of the problems. And if I read you correctly, I
welcome the acceptance very much.
>But for all the wisdom
in the world, this is but just an analuysis of the problem. May we ask
the >million dollar question what author may suggest as
the proposed SOLUTION if anything to be >tabled before the
people.
*** That is indeed an important question. Now then, do *I* have a
set of solutions that are ready for implementation? No I don't.
Why? Because I am NOT competent to provide solutions to the very many
different issues involved. Perhaps in an arena or two, I may have
ideas, but not for everything. That is why effective governance
of a state is dependent on many people, with different expertises in
different arenas. Technocrats, management experts, economists,
political scientists, sociologists, cultural leaders,
educationists--you name it.
An able and creative group of people therefore will be required
to lead an Assam government, who will have the foresight and wisdom to
bring in those with proven expertises to manage the various
specialties. They will have to have the freedom to seek these
people out, and bring them on board. People like yourself for example.
Not to become a paper-pusher, a clerk-from-hell, to serve as
designated obstacle to the doers and entrepreneurs, with a guaranteed
cushy job for life with pre-determined promotion and seniority ranks
regardless of ability or accomplishments, accountable to none; but as
an adequately paid servant of the people, who would be graded and
judged according to your performance.
Along with all that, the institutions of state will have to be
reorganized and reformed, to evaluate and reward the performers and
hold the non-performers accountable; to provide deterrence to the
corrupt by prosecuting, adjudicating and punishing the guilty.
So on and so forth.
But to be able to get to that point even, Assam must have the
freedom to set up the structure of a reformed government, a revamped
set of state institutions.
Now the questions here will be:
You tell me!
Even if there is not anybody in Assam in some esoteric field,
they could be hired from the outside.
But the first step is the FREEDOM .
*** You are probably seeking a plan of action, already made up,
ready to be implemented, and since I have none, ready to render a
verdict that it is all talk, and thus not feasible. But I hope it is
not so. There may be, there may not be such a plan all set up, ready
to go. I don't know the answer to that. But if it does NOT exist, does
NOT mean that it is NOT possible. In such a case it is all the more
important for those who care, and have the abilities--in whatever
area, to get on board, to help set the right course, and contribute
constructively, help in setting up such a framework and plan of
action.
Merely saying no or trying to find only faults with the concept
will not help in any way.
c
At 11:30 AM -0600 11/11/05, Rajen Barua wrote:
(1) >The NE has ample resources to be able to sustain itself without any handout from anybody. It has to develop it effectively. But it is denied the right to manage its >resources for the betterment of its people.
(2) >Furthermore, the Indian governmental system and its electoral system have never allowed for the people to ELECT or SELECT its most CAPABLE people to >plan and execute its development efforts. It is now at the mercy of an incompetent political class who are BEHOLDEN to their remotely located party handlers >and controllers from Delhi, and a bureaucracy which is little more than a bunch of puppets and paper pushers, WITHOUT any DEVELOPMENT management >abilities, further disabled by the corrupt political class' controls and a TOTAL dysfunction of the INSTITUTIONS of government thru which they could be held >ACCOUNTABLE.
(3) >And those local parties that held power were just incompetent and unaware of the DYSFUNCTIONAL Indian SYSTEM under which they operated, leading to >the same kind of results.
I would say that was a very astude analysis and observation of the problem for Assam and the North East. But for all the wisdom in the world, this is but just an analuysis of the problem. May we ask the million dollar question what author may suggest as the proposed SOLUTION if anything to be tabled before the people. Or are we simply too happy with the analysis of the problem?
RB
----- Original Message -----From: Chan MahantaTo: Partha Borah ; [email protected]Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:16 AMSubject: Re: [Assam] Re Re: Rebuild Assam or IndiaHi Partha:
Yes am talking about the same thing. We must be able to remove dependency on others. But for some kind of problems you need to get some sort of help. And that is your right. It may be flood problem, unemployment problem, communication problem and many more. If I am not right from your point of view can you tell me how can you solve flood problem, how can you improve the road condition, how can you lay double track rail without getting help from central government?
**** The answer to the question I raised is very simple: The Center has usurped Assam's and the NE's resources and thus left the region UNABLE to fend for itself.That is why you have to go beg Delhi for handouts. And it has led to some of our best and brightest arguing that Assam does not know how to beg or grovel effectively enough. As an Assamese I find that despicable. Beneath any semblance of dignity. Beggers will never become choosers, as you well know.The NE has ample resources to be able to sustain itself without any handout from anybody. It has to develop it effectively. But it is denied the right to manage its resources for the betterment of its people.Furthermore, the Indian governmental system and its electoral system have never allowed for the people to ELECT or SELECT its most CAPABLE people to plan and execute its development efforts. It is now at the mercy of an incompetent political class who are BEHOLDEN to their remotely located party handlers and controllers from Delhi, and a bureaucracy which is little more than a bunch of puppets and paper pushers, WITHOUT any DEVELOPMENT management abilities, furtherdisabled by the corrupt political class' controls and a TOTAL dysfunction of the INSTITUTIONS of government thru which they could be held ACCOUNTABLE.And those local parties that held power were just incompetent and unaware of the DYSFUNCTIONAL Indian SYSTEM under which they operated, leading to the same kind of results.Tell me WHEN you have seen some SECRETARY or COMMISSIONER, or DIRECTOR or Minister, ever BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE for the MISMANAGEMENT of funds, of substandard work or blatant robbery of public assets, does not matter in what administration, does not matter where in India?Can you point to a single SIGNIFICANT such instance?If the leaders get away with dereliction of duty, do you expect the rank and file to do otherwise? Can you imagine an army at war winning while its Generalsare either asleep or are running from battle or busy with merrymaking?
If we can have a very strong leadership, getting this kind of aid will be very simple thing. I would like point out the case of West Bengal. For a long time the party, which was in power in the state, was sitting in the opposition bench in the centre. But that state never deprived of fund (it is a different story that in spite of getting huge fund people will never be satisfied). This is a normal practice we should adopt. Even if Assam gets independence, then also all the community will not be satisfied. Then also this practice way. This doesnt mean that we are depending on others, rather we are raise our voice to establish our right.
*** I could not understand what you are proposing here. While leadership is important, leaders cannot get things done with their charisma or charm. They need TOOLS, just like an army cannot win in battle if their guns don't fire, or their troop carriers break down.Why do the funds get squandered? Have you considered that? Do think about it and tell us what you think needs done to fix that problem.And don't tell us that the people are bad, that's why. That will be a ridiculous and ignorant answer.
>I didnt get what you want to say. For over last 25 years the blame game has been very prominent in my state. It is becoming a common practice to blame central government for every other problem. I believe you might be well aware of it. So I am not getting you point why you have written WHY do you or others BLAME the Center.
*** That is because the CENTER holds the powers and has cornered the resources. If it did not, it could not be blamed, could it?Very simple, isn't it? I am amazed by the befuddlement you folks, otherwise so bright and competent, display , on this non-mystery.>See, I am appealing for introspection. To the best of my knowledge call for introspection cant be termed as acting >as self-appointed spokesmen. This is the best approach to rectify mistakes. Then what is wrong with me?*** That's cool. No problems with introspection. But I was attempting to prevent your wandering into what many of our friends here fall victim of : Of playing spokesperson for others as to why OTHERS will react a certain way, while never expressing their own views or assessments. Also, I have seen a number of covert attempts here at asserting a certain political viewpoint in the guise of 'introspection'. That is what I cautioned is not a good idea :-).So rest easy--NOTHING is wrong with you. Sorry I man de you feel that way :-).Best to you.cmAt 11:01 AM +0000 11/9/05, Partha Borah wrote:
Hi Chan Mahanta,
Thanks for your quick reply. Let me clarify my stand.
>Why do you want to compel the Central Govt. to solve YOUR problems? Why must you be dependent on somebody else for your welfare?
Yes am talking about the same thing. We must be able to remove dependency on others. But for some kind of problems you need to get some sort of help. And that is your right. It may be flood problem, unemployment problem, communication problem and many more. If I am not right from your point of view can you tell me how can you solve flood problem, how can you improve the road condition, how can you lay double track rail without getting help from central government?
If we can have a very strong leadership, getting this kind of aid will be very simple thing. I would like point out the case of West Bengal. For a long time the party, which was in power in the state, was sitting in the opposition bench in the centre. But that state never deprived of fund (it is a different story that in spite of getting huge fund people will never be satisfied). This is a normal practice we should adopt. Even if Assam gets independence, then also all the community will not be satisfied. Then also this practice way. This doesnt mean that we are depending on others, rather we are raise our voice to establish our right.
> WHY do you or others BLAME the Center ? Why is it a blame-magnet? What are the things that YOU blame the Center for, if anything?
I didnt get what you want to say. For over last 25 years the blame game has been very prominent in my state. It is becoming a common practice to blame central government for every other problem. I believe you might be well aware of it. So I am not getting you point why you have written WHY do you or others BLAME the Center.
> It is not a very good approach to play self-appointed spokesmen or interpreters for others.
See, I am appealing for introspection. To the best of my knowledge call for introspection cant be termed as acting as self-appointed spokesmen. This is the best approach to rectify mistakes. Then what is wrong with me?
I am looking forward to receive healthy reply from you.
Partha Sarathi Borah
Gurgaon, India
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Partha,
Welcome to assamnet.
I am sure you did not post your comments here merely to preach, but did so after thinking about it,deliberating about it, hoping to contribute constructively to the discourse.With that assumptions, allow me ask you two simple questions about your comments. There are many more, but that is for later, should you remain engaged that is.
>We must be able to compel central government leadership to solve our problems.
*** Why do you want to compel the Central Govt. to solve YOUR problems? Why must you be dependent on somebody else for your welfare?
>We must be able to create a situation where blame on central government will >reduce drastically.
*** WHY do you or others BLAME the Center ? Why is it a blame-magnet? What are the things that YOU blame the Center for, if anything? I am asking you, because
you broach the subject and because of a propensity amongst us here to speak for others, while holding back our own views. It is not a very good approach to play self-appointed spokesmen or interpreters for others. It is far more credible if we speak for ourselves. Know what I mean?
I will look forward to your answers. And should you furnish some, we can engage in some discussion.
Best to you.
cm
At 2:51 PM +0000 11/8/05, Partha Borah wrote:
I would like to share my views regarding the topic 'Rebuild Assam or India'. It is a very very nice initiative.
It is mentioned there that 'If you have any objection about ULFA- ask yourself why India continues with a million strong armed forces...'
Yes, of course. I have objection about ULFA. And probably my view starts from this point onwards. What I feel is that, we (the Assamese) are not yet matured enough to think of independence. In which front are we capable? Can we compete with rest of the Indians? No we cant. How candidates get seat in IITs, how many candidates can clear UPSC, how many renowned people are there in the art and culture field, how many high ranking officers are there in defense service? There are numerous similar questions are there whose answer is common either no or very few. So we are not yet been able to compete with others. Can we blame Indian Union Government for all these inabilities?
Even very less number of people outside Assam know about Srimanta Sankar Dev or Vir Lachit. Is not our responsibility to spread the message of these great personalities to different parts of the world? I think it is high time for introspection. Simply passing the blame to others is not going to solve the problem rather it makes things more and more complicated.
What I feel is that we need to prepare our self to compete equally with others. There should not be any front untouched.
We should learn how to work hard.
We must be able to compel central government leadership to solve our problems.
There should be no leader left who can overlook our problem.
We must be able to create a situation where blame on central government will reduce drastically.
And to do all these we need to penetrate into every front, every filed. And for that we must work hard, compete boldly.
After achieving these objectives, if anybody still wants independence, then I shall have no objection.
Partha Sarathi Borah
Gurgaon, India
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:08:21 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Study on Assam -Centre for Policy
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Mukul-da,
You did not answer my question....
What is the cure and who are these people ?
Umesh
mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh
Grow up--FAST.
If you or any in the Assamnet or beyond have any ideas on HOW torebuild Assam or India -Shoot at me -not with a gun-but intelligently.I shall
record these and present the essence at anappropriate time and venue.
If you have any objection about ULFA- ask yourself why India continues
with a million strong armed forces--and spends literally evey
Dollar"Earned" from the effort of millions sent out to slave in the 1st world--
in keeping this 'Armed Forces, supplied and equipped-- knowing fully
well that these will not be defending anybody,anywhere,anytime.And ask
yourself if GeorgeWBush is a leader o! r a pusher or what?And ask why there
is any unrest anywhere at all--come with an unified theory--you might
even rank with Amartya Sen Types.
mm
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