Dear Mahanta da
Sorry for being late in my reply. I think it is better
to accept the fact that we disagree on almost all the
points about Assam's aspirations for independence. I
went through your detailed response carefully before
coming to the conclusion that your logic failed to
convince me about its utility and applicability in the
forseeable future. We are better off within India than
outside it.
I am in fact eager to see how you would like to
attribute the absolutelty unprofessional conduct of
assam policemen to GoI (as per The Sentinel news).
This is more or less reflected in all the state govt
departments. How do you envisage a very rosy picture
in sovereign assam with the same kind of people 'with
complete overhaul of the system' remains an enigma to
me? Of course it may be due to my 'low inferential
capabilities'. Hats off to your capability in
understanding your brother's posts in the right
perspective. I don't understand his cryptic replies
many a time.
A comprehensive blueprint encompassing economic,
social, political and administrative issues in
sovereign Assam is the first and foremost need for a
meaningful and wider debate on the pros and cons of it
before trying to mislead people with theoritical
rebuttal. I would consider myself fortunate if you or
anyone of that school of thought can share their
wisdom about any workable and practical plan on any
one aspect (say administrative)in independent assam
which will be much better, responsive and accountable
than the present one. But it should not be a vague
picture depicted till now in a highly polemical debate
on the issue.
I hope in the larger interest of many netters, you
will not disappoint us and share a portion (if not the
full) of your proposed blueprint.
Bye for now.
Mayur
--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mayur:
>
>
> At 2:52 AM -0800 11/9/05, mayur bora wrote:
> >Dear Mahanta da
> >
> >Here is my response to the points you raised.
> >
> >1) The total absence of a feeling of bonhomie and
> >camaraderie among different people will completely
> >vitiate the atmosphere and mutual distrust and
> >acrimony will reach its zenith in sovereign Assam.
> You
> >can't put the blame solely on GoI for that.
>
>
> *** But what about your original contention that it
> IS, now that is,
> is Assam's biggest 'weakness'? How has it gotten to
> where it is now,
> as you see it? Under whose control and under the
> nurturing policies
> crafted by whom?
>
> I was hoping to give you some help by asking you the
> question on the
> concept of 'meles' ( mlecch) , but you did avoid it
> like the plague,
> didn't you ? I understand however why you would not
> touch it.
>
> GoI, incidentally, has EXPLOITED the growing rifts,
> that developed
> only after the colonial powers, first the British,
> and the
> subsequent, far more corrosive Indian practices took
> over.
>
> *** I will like to ask you, how, as an intelligent
> and informed
> observer, you see the GoI policies helping the cause
> of preserving
> the ethnic identities of these indigenous people of
> the region? The
> Indian govt. created the many states, actually
> 'dependencies', of
> the NE, by simple majority votes of a Lok Sabha of
> 500 where the NE's
> representation is what, less than 20 , instead of
> promoting the
> co-operative, interdependent ethos that sustained
> them in the
> centuries past. These states, with no means to
> sustain themselves,
> are now abject dependencies of a Center, showering
> them with its
> largesse, creating an illusion they are doing well,
> but really
> killing their culture with a Hindi/Hindu one,
> political invasion,
> perpetuated with military might.
>
> Is that not the bitter truth Mayur? And you accept
> if not sing
> praises of such policies, playing defenders of your
> indigenous
> brethrens' culture?
>
> The only reason I would not call your intent to
> question here, is
> because you are,I am sure, just like so many of your
> peers, ignorant
> of the realities. I too was so, until recently.
> Fortunately I read
> Prof. Sanjib Baruah's book -- Durable Disorder, in
> which he makes
> some of these issues very clear. If you are really
> interested in
> understanding what has been going on, you cannot not
> read the
> book.
>
>
>
>
> >2) Let me accept for arguments sake that I am being
> >obsequious to some system or culture.
>
>
> *** I don't understand what you are trying to say.
> Perhaps a simpler
> way of expressing yourself would be more helpful for
> those of us to
> whom English is only a second language :-). But if
> you are suggesting
> that a Hindu culture was indeed instrumental, thru
> the concept of
> 'meles', in causing the cultural alienation of the
> indigenous people
> of the NE, why can't you admit it?
>
> Why do you qualify it as merely agreeing for
> argument's sake?
>
> Are you trying to have it both ways?
>
>
>
>
>
> >But you have
> >already surrendered yourself to a pernicious belief
> >whose impact will be disastrous for the people for
> >whom you are acting as spokesman.
>
> *** I am a spokesperson ONLY of myself. I am not a
> designated
> representative or spokesperson of anybody. But that
> is not to suggest
> others don't agree with me. Because if it were so,
> those of you who
> disagree, would not be so wrapped up with denouncing
> my arguments
> with fancy words, but without ever being able to
> explain why or how.
> It is because you see my arguments making sense and
> damaging to your
> cause.
>
> Now what exactly do you see as MY pernicious beliefs
> that will be destructive
> for those whose views I might be reflecting? And HOW
> will they be destructive?
>
> I hope you can delineate those, so we can examine
> the substance of
> your opinions.
>
>
>
>
> > Worse, you have also
> >surrendered yourself to sophistry and casuistry in
> >order to defend your specious arguments.
>
> *** Huh? Are you dropping philosophy on me again
> here Mayur? I told
> you I am philosophically challenged. Your effort is
> akin to" gorur
> aagot twakar bai-xing jwkari ghanh khai". It means
> nothing to me, and
> I doubt to anybody else.
>
> But it will be a different issue with my 'specious'
> arguments. What
> are the arguments that I have been making that are
> specious ( appear
> sound but are fallacious--for those who are not sure
> what the word
> means)? My observations of a decade of Assam Net
> debates has been
> that no one gives me an inch, if they can find
> something incorrect,
> fallacious, or otherwise untenable. My esteemed
> opponents here
> descend on me like a crow over a June bug--as they
> would say here in
> the American heartland. The only reason they don't
> give examples or
> explain is because they can't.
>
> You got your challenge for the day Mayur. Prove it.
> Explain it. And
> when you do, I will be the first to take it back,
> eat crow. But fancy
> words will not take your arguments anywhere.
>
>
>
> >My servitude
> >is not harmful for others, but yours can spell
> havoc
> >in peoples' lives. Of course you will not be
> affected.
> >You will probably be busy dishing out justification
> >from your armchair for any mishap which is bound to
> >happen.
>
>
> *** On the contrary servitude of people like
> yourself, who less
> fortunate people look up to, is eminently harmful to
> their long term
> well-being. It prevents them from examining what
> ails their
> collective lot, keeps them from seeking better
> ways, seeking the
> reforms to their governance they so sorely need.
>
> The fact that I am furnishing explanations,
> clarifying issues from
>
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