> In any case, please keep writing - as often as you can - and not >necessarily about sovereignty.
I ditto Santanu's sentiments here Mayur. I will even go a step farther, do write about sovereignty too. It is NOT a taboo. But a meaningful exchange cannot take place with one side having to answer all the questions , inquisition style, while the defenders won't answer any. cm PS: Not that it is important for me, but there are many here who like to know who a newcomer is . Because we like to think of our net here as an 'adda', where we know each other. To that end it would be nice have a little intro, either by the newcomer or by someone who knows her/him. And I will forward a few old pieces from my hard disk, to set Dilip's question in perspective. At 8:54 AM -0600 11/14/05, Roy, Santanu wrote: >Dear Mayur: > >Please don't be offended by Dilip-da comparing you to a comet or a >shadow. He means well. > >Fact is that you write very well and many on this net, who are not >active right now, find your arguments extremely relevant and laud >your ability to articulate them with intellectual honesty. Perhaps, >they want to see you write more often (which is understandably time >consuming). In any case, please keep writing - as often as you can - >and not necessarily about sovereignty. > >Take care - > >Santanu-da. > >To other netters: Mayur is very real, a former student of economics >from my own college in Delhi (much younger than me, of course) & now >managing a major public sector bank in Chandigarh. Its a pleasure to >have him on the net. > >-----Original Message----- >From: mayur bora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Mon 11/14/2005 10:28 PM >To: Dilip/Dil Deka; Roy, Santanu; Chan Mahanta; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Assam] Assam's Ancient Links with Mainland India > > >My knowledge about science in general and astronomy in >particular is extremely poor. Even then I could not >resist the temptation of asking the gentleman about >the logic of comparing me to a comet as I joined >assamnet only during August 2005. Does any comet keep >on coming and vanishing so frequently ? Secondly I >don't have a misplaced sense of importance about >myself to think that I am trying to light the bright >sky of assamnet. What I have been trying for the last >few months is to share my concern on many issues >pertaining to Assam and to look for at least a couple >of solutions in a collective and consensual way. Mr >Deka might have missed many of our (Mahanta -da's and >mine) earlier mails on similar kind of issues. But >what have we achieved so far ? Now I have decided not >to give counter arguments due to the following >reasons. > >1) We are becoming more and more theoretical >2) Paucity of time at my side to indulge in something >with no workable solution at sight >3) Gradual turning of the whole issue into some kind >of one-upmanship >4) Last but not the least, Mahanta-da's increasing >inclination to answer any question with a question > >I am very happy if he or for that matter any one in >the assamnet has a realistic blueprint for sovereign >Assam. I have all the best wishes for them to >translate their dreams into reality in future. However >till the time that blueprint is not shared on a common >platform for any meaningful debate, no one can prevent >me from taking any such claim from any one including >Mahanta - da with a handful (not with a pinch) of >salt. > > >Mayur > >--- Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Santanu, >> First of all I apologize to everyone for copying a >> personal mail to Assamnet. It was meant to be only >> for Chandan Mahanta since he was trying so hard to >> get a response from Mayur Bora and it looked to me >> Mayur Bora was like a comet. He lit up the skies of >> Assamnet for a short while and vanished. We have had >> so many shadows come and go in Assamnet, I felt here > > is another. I of course hope that Mayur Bora is a >> real person and he will continue to participate in >> Assamnet. We know for sure that Bidyut Kakati is an >> assumed name just like Dr. Tilok Hatimuriya and >> Dipankar Pungta were (R.I.P). >> >> Prasenjit, >> This has nothing to do with unity or disunity. Mine >> was a simple observation and a simple query to my >> friend Chandan Mahanta. It is unfortunate that >> Assamnet's name remained when I deleted the other >> names from the original mail. >> Despite occasional flare up that you see in this >> net, in general the discussions are civil compared > > to many other nets I have seen. >> >> So stay calm and participate in the discussions as >> your time allows. Pseudonames though distracting >> will not alter the course. >> >> Dilip Deka >> >======================================================================================= >> "Roy, Santanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Dilip-da: >> Why do you think Mayur Bora is a shadow? >> Santanu. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of >> Dilip/Dil Deka >> Sent: Mon 11/14/2005 4:05 AM >> To: Chan Mahanta >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Assam's Ancient Links with >> Mainland India >> >> Nulu, >> Mayur Bora, I think, is a shadow just like Bidyut >> Kakati. Another impersonation. Do you have any >> inkling who it could be? >> Dilip >> >> Chan Mahanta wrote: >> Hi Mayur: >> >> >> >> >> I was looking forward to getting some specific >> answers to all the questions I asked you about your >> charges of my various 'specious' arguments, about >> the excessive nature of my analyses, about how >> Indian governance is helping reduce the rifts >> between the many indigenous people-your primary >> concern about Assam, how you justify that as a >> reason AGAINST Assam's sovereignty aspirations, so >> on and so forth. >> >> >> >> >> Since you failed to answer any of them other than >> repeat your opinions, will it be fair for us to >> conclude that those were merely your fancy words and >> that there was no substance to them, that you don't >> know why you make those charges and comments and >> deliver those opinions ? And if you do not agree, >> will you explain why? >> >> >> >> >> Yes, I will be pleased to explain the disarray in >> Assam's management and how they are rooted in the >> dysfunctional Indian governance. However, that is >> not to be construed as the people in charge of Assam >> governance have no responsibility at all, like some >> of our friends here assume, as soon as we discuss >> the Indian governmental roots of the problems, and >> get all very excited. They too are accountable. >> >> >> The question however is HOW do you hold them >> accountable? How do you change things? I presume you >> too do not like what you see. But what is YOUR plan, >> and how do you see MORE of the same being better >> than changes and reforms under a sovereign Assam >> govt.? >> >> >> Many of our Markhowa ( Markin Kharkhowa) peers, with >> their terribly incomplete understanding of >> democracy, answer that elections provide the >> accountability, that hold the governments >> accountable. Do they? Governments come and >> governments go? Does anything change? And if nothing >> changes, why so? >> >> >> Before I go any further I want some answers from >> you. I am not about to submit myself here into your >> inquisition. If you ask something, because you don't >> know, and if I know the answer, it will be my >> pleasure a share that. But yours is a CHALLENGE, an >> inquisition. Under the circumstances, I intend to >> hold YOU to explain your conclusions, charges, and >> questions as well. >> >> >> Fair deal? >> >> >> >> >> >Hats off to your capability in >> understanding your brother's posts in the >> right>perspective. I don't understand his cryptic >> repliesmany a time. >> >> >> *** Thanks. But it seems like something salutary >> only to those who are not anywhere near having any >> understanding of the issues involved. >> >> >> I agree my brother is often cryptic. Even I feel >> that way. People have different styles of >> communicating. My brother assumes, obviously >> incorrectly, that we know of the many things he > > does. Unfortunately we don't. And thus it is >> difficult for us to connect the dots. But that is >> NOT his fault :-). Having said that, I would agree >> that ultimately it is a matter of both COMMUNICATING >> and EDUCATING. But those who are trying to learn, >> sincerely, cannot do so by either posing challenges >> only and/or with a confrontational attitude. >> >> >> Challenges are meaningless, unless the challenger >> also could explain what they defend. >> >> >> >> >> cm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 10:57 PM -0800 11/12/05, mayur bora wrote: > > Dear Mahanta da >> >> Sorry for being late in my reply. I think it is >> better >> to accept the fact that we disagree on almost all >> the >> points about Assam's aspirations for independence. I >> went through your detailed response carefully before >> coming to the conclusion that your logic failed to >> convince me about its utility and applicability in >> the >> forseeable future. We are better off within India >> than >> outside it. >> >> I am in fact eager to see how you would like to >> attribute the absolutelty unprofessional conduct of >> assam policemen to GoI (as per The Sentinel news). >> This is more or less reflected in all the state govt >> departments. How do you envisage a very rosy picture >> in sovereign assam with the same kind of people >> 'with >> complete overhaul of the system' remains an enigma >> to >> me? Of course it may be due to my 'low >> inferentialcapabilities'. Hats off to your >> capability in >> understanding your brother's posts in the >> rightperspective. 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