On the topic of specialist institutions such as AIIMS
in Assam - I would beg to differ and say that it is an
absolute necessity. Perhaps those folks that think
these instutions are not necessary have been lucky in
not having to go to any of these places. 

It would be a good idea to however take a detour via
Mumbai next time one is going back to Assam for a
vacation and visit the Tata Cancer Hospital. My cousin
was a doctor there before he moved to England - and a
significant number of people come from the NE. A
significant number visit CMC Vellore and Apollo
Madras. For illnesses such as cancer and so on. And
these are not rich people. These are perfectly
ordinary lower middle class people. Who scramble
together every such time somehow to raise the Rs. 30k
or 40k to keep their family members alive. 

And then there are those that cannot even take the
step of going that distance. It is said that no
patient that goes into Barooah Cancer hospital comes
out alive.

So I think it is a bit thoughtless to suggest that we
don't need a good hospital such as AIIMS in Assam. The
elitists, by the way, don't have a problem anyway.
They go to Delhi or in certain categories they, I am
sure would be going to Bangkok (or Mumbai in one
specific case).

As for institutions such as IITs, for those who have
escaped the clutches of the nothingness in terms of
career - people like us - it probably is fine and
dandy to claim not to have such institutions. But it
is a fact that these institutions create great job
opportunities. More importantly, however, they create
the opportunity in many cases, to enable industries to
grow around them. 

If the IITs were not to be there, I am sure many like
C-Da and I and almost everyone else would not have
escaped the clutches of our small town / lower middle
class / rural surroundings.











--- Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Re: [Assam] ReBuild Assam -Continued(I had seen poor
> people dying in the train)
> 
> Poor people may die of illness. Many are dying all
> over the world. 1 million children are dying every
> year in Africa out of hunger. Those are known
> reported facts.
> However, the bottom line is I don't think anybody is
> dying of hunger in Assam.  (India, may be)
> Can the esteemed speaker kindly would be able to
> show any real time statistics of anybody dying of
> hunger in Assam?
> I will give $100 against such proof to the family.
> RB
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Chan Mahanta 
>   To: Coolspirit111 ; Barua25 
>   Cc: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:55 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Assam] ReBuild Assam -Continued
> 
> 
>   Not my intent here to come to others' defense.
> Dilip Deka, I am sure, can defend his position well
> here. But my two bits below:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   At 2:44 AM -0800 11/22/05, Coolspirit111 wrote:
>     If you can not understand the importance of
> having an AIIMS like medical college in the region,
> pl travel to chennai/vellore sometime in
> III-sleeper/un-reserved compartment (it is easy to
> say something sitting in an a/c room than seeing the
> real world),
> 
> 
> 
>   **** Been there, done that.
> 
> 
>   But the question remains, unanswered and
> un-addressed, about the wisdom of siphoning off
> limited PUBLIC resources or demanding it; to reward
> a FEW. The few who may opt to become Babus, or leave
> for the UK or the USA, and the rest become
> paper-pushing clerks rising up the ladder of
> seniority, producing LITTLE. No doubt there would be
> exceptions.But the exceptions  contribute little to
> nation building.
> 
> 
>   No one would deny that there is indeed a need for
> professionals in society: Doctors, engineers etc.
> But it cannot be THE only need. Therefore the
> limited PUBLIC resources MUST be allocated
> carefully, wisely -- to produce what is needed MOST
> by society, for the greatest benefit to the people.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      you will understand why it is important. (I had
> seen poor people dying in the train) And ask
> some-one (should be from the region) in IITG, how it
> may help in some way besides employment and
> prestige. (RB is right). >Emplyement and prestige!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   **** Employment and prestige for a FEW at the cost
> of the general public's good is NOT the state's
> business. If individuals seek that, let them. Why
> should everyone have to sacrifice for the prestige
> or employment of a few? The argument  is a very
> simple-minded one at best. Immature one.
> 
> 
>   But I understand where it comes from: From the
> same outlook that accepts and
>   even defends a perverse system that robs the
> public of its resources to re-distribute it to
> enrich a few, in an egregious display of reverse
> Robinhood-ism.
> 
> 
> 
>      Coming to museum, (even I am not very sure how
> it will help people of assam in a big way), it will
> surely help in saving some money for people like
> Mr.Deka who likes to visit museum, at least for
> those who do not have enough and can not afford to
> visit different states!!!
> 
> 
>   *** Indeed. And that is very thoughtful. But
> again, it is a matter of prioritizing. What is MORE
> important for the greater good of the largest sector
> of the population? Is a Museum of Science and
> Technology more important for the state than
> childhood immunization for example?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   >(it is easy to say something sitting in an a/c
> room than seeing the real >world),
> 
> 
>   **** That is not a very bright argument. Means
> nothing. Just because the argument comes from
> someone who is privileged, does not ever mean that
> its merit is thus reduced, devalued.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   cm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     regards,
> 
>     changmai
> 
> 
>     Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>       Emplyement and prestige!!!
>       RB
> 
> 
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Dilip/Dil Deka
>         To: Chan Mahanta ; Coolspirit111
>         Cc: [email protected]
>         Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:06 PM
>         Subject: Re: [Assam] ReBuild Assam
> -Continued
> 
> 
>         Absolutely correct. How does installation of
> an IIT or an AIIMS campus help Assam in solving the
> real problems? Why were these included in AASU
> demands to start with?
>         I also keep hearing about demand for museums
> - oil museum here, tea museum there. What will a
> museum bring to Assam, except for a few
> non-productive jobs. Don't get me wrong, museums are
> great and I visit them when I can. But what does a
> museum bring to Assam at this time?
> 
>         Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
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> 
>           I lost Changmai's link.
>           Can you please forward to him and to
> assamnet -with proper labelling etc?
>           mm
> 
>           Changmai-new to the net ?
> 
>           He added a few points to the exchange
> going on between Chan  &Partha.
> 
>             a.. "We had to sacrifice hundreds to get
> IIT": Wrong-AASU did never fight and die for an
> IIT,a Gas Cracker ,a Refinery,a CULTURE?complex  .In
> a final midnight document ALL  these were there and
> they signed!              Assam does not need IIT's
> when hundreds of "Engin! eering Degree" holders are
> produced each year and none have done any
> Engineering YET.. And a few Assam Candidates are
> taken in by IIT Gauhati out of some Guilt
> Complex.Bulk are from India-get stamped and they are
> of no use to India -certainly none for Assam. 
> 
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