At 12:21 PM -0800 11/28/05, Rajib Das wrote: >Whether little or much changes is actually debatable.
**** Let us see a few examples if there indeed ARE changes that have taken place with changes in govt. brought about by elections. >But you bring in an interesting perspective! So should >we bring in dictatorship? **** That depends upon IF dictatorship is the ONLY possible alternative.One would hope the informed and the able could imagine better alternatives. > > >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >f. Finally, you should look at how and why Laloo >> >Prasad Yadav was booted out. >> >> >> >> **** But so what? >> >> Govts. come and govts. go , but little changes. That >> is the bottom >> line. And that is what must be changed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 9:47 PM +0530 11/25/05, mc mahant wrote: >> >From: mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject: Re: [Assam] To Be or not to Be >> >Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:31 AM >> > >> ><<<<<I am emphasising money here because we are >> talking >> >about opportunity. Money goes to where the >> opportunity >> >is. It is real. Follow the money trail. >> > >> >f. Finally, you should look at how and why Laloo >> >Prasad Yadav was booted out. Laloo - the messiah of >> >the dalits and the muslims - who gave them the >> voice - >> >and he was booted out by the same dalits. Even in >> >Bihar - and I was surprised too - the need for >> >opportunity far outweighs today the need to keep >> their >> >class intact. >>>>> >> > >> >Economics My dear Rajib is so different from your >> simplistic >> >picture! Why are Pan Masala ,Horlicks, Booze,COKE >> (from coal) >> >attracting huge moneys into Assam today? >> > >> >And Laloo's loyalty bank shifted just 0.87%--as per >> media and >> >Statistics.He is their most viable leader.He will >> come back!He was >> >not Booted out! >> > >> >It was like Congress coming backQuietly into >> Assam-for no fault of >> >theirs- in the last Assembly elections--when BJP >> /AGP fought it >> >out." Beauty" of India's direct copy of >> Westminster/Washington >> >models -where there are basically 2 contenders. >> There were other >> >forms -like reruns-.No they would destabilize the >> Nehru clan. >> > >> >mm >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >From: Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mc mahant >> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] >> >Subject: Re: [Assam] To Be or not to Be >> >Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:19:11 -0800 (PST) >> >>C-da, >> >> >> >>In light of your post, let me make a few points: >> >> >> >>a. Actually IMHO there is a very REAL possibility >> in >> >>India today. Like I have said before, the chance >> of >> >>doing better TODAY is way more in India than the >> US. >> >>That at this point does not yet apply to Assam. >> And we >> >>all know what are the reasons. My reasons, that >> is. >> >> >> >>b. Actually there are many more of people like us >> who >> >>have stayed back in India and done unbelievably >> well >> >>for themselves and their families and others. >> Person >> >>to person, these statistics are there for everyone >> to >> >>see. All of this obviously has happened in the >> last 15 >> >>years. >> >> >> >>c. As for India's capability, we do know that it >> is >> >>indeed forging forward TODAY. As is China. Their >> >>political wills are of different nature. India has >> a >> >>long way to go before they accomplish everything >> they >> >>need to accomplish. But both are well on their >> roads. >> >>Once again, if nations and their focus on what >> they >> >>need to do is to be taken into account, I would >> >>re-iterate that at this point, India knows where >> it is >> >>going and perhaps the US does not. >> >> >> >>d. The ULFA bogey is a real one in terms of the >> >>absence of progress in Assam - especially when you >> >>take into account the last 15 years when many >> parts of >> >>India has progressed. Ofcourse we have the local >> >>political class that chose to abjure their > > leadership >> >>as well as has GOI. If other states in India has >> >>progressed, it stands to reason that they and/or >> GOI >> >>are doing something right. >> >> >> >>All I have said is that let us measure how much >> damage >> >>the ULFA has done to Assam's economy in the last >> 15 >> >>years. It is important for that question to be >> >>answered - and if answered that they have indeed >> done >> >>enough damage - it is a tool to get them to >> retire. If >> >>our interests are with the people, we do need to >> >>understand it. In the same breath let us figure >> out >> >>what damage every other party includign GOA and >> GOI >> >>has done. Why the last 15 years - because winds of >> >>change have blown in these last 15 years - our >> sails >> >>simply have not caught up with those winds. >> >> >> >>e. The exodus is not a matter of emotion. It is >> greed >> >>again. You should check the following - how much >> money >> > >is flowing into India from outside, how much of >> that >> >>money is flowing from non-resident Indians? >> >>The last 35 years is a wrong timeline to look at. >> It >> >>is the next 25 you need to. Perhaps for some it >> does >> >>not matter - the hunt for opportunity. They are >> too >> >>set in their environments to change - their >> ability to >> >>take risks is reduced. >> >>I am emphasising money here because we are talking >> >>about opportunity. Money goes to where the >> opportunity >> >>is. It is real. Follow the money trail. >> >> >> >>f. Finally, you should look at how and why Laloo >> >>Prasad Yadav was booted out. Laloo - the messiah >> of >> >>the dalits and the muslims - who gave them the >> voice - >> >>and he was booted out by the same dalits. Even in >> >>Bihar - and I was surprised too - the need for >> >>opportunity far outweighs today the need to keep >> their >> >>class intact. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Rajib: >> >> > >> >> > Take a good look at some of your own remarks >> here: >> >> > >> >> > > >I wish there were more that escaped. Not >> just >> >> > >Chandanda. And I. And all others on Assamnet. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > **** What does it mean? Why are you glad to >> have >> >=== message truncated ===> >_______________________________________________ >> assam mailing list >> [email protected] >> >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> > > > > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! Music Unlimited >Access over 1 million songs. 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