>> Dead is
dead. Why we cannot pass that and proceed with our lives dreaming for
a future Independent Assam?
*** I don't know whose words of wisdom those are, but WHY are you
attempting to put then on my mouth ?
Does it seem like I cannot express myself adequately?
>But we do need
to analyse all deaths whether it is of Sanjoy Ghosh or Parag
Das.
*** But what did that have with Ravi's ancestry and his work with
RVC?
At 11:26 AM -0600 1/4/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
it looks like you really believe:
> Dead is dead. Why we cannot pass that and proceed with our lives dreaming for a future Independent Assam?
But we do need to analyse all deaths whether it is of Sanjoy Ghosh or Parag Das.
Unless we discuss and analyse how we will prevent such deaths?
Who killed Sanjoy Ghosh?
Who killed Parag Das?
Those questions should be always alive with us.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan MahantaTo: Rajen Barua ; Ram SarangapaniCc: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:59 AMSubject: Re: [Assam] Assam Trip-2 Addendum>Why we had to drag the dead guy Sanjoy Ghosh into the picture?*** WHO did that? Was it me?At 10:29 AM -0600 1/4/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
*** I do too. But it was Rajen Barua who found it necessary to use RVC and Ravi's state / national origins and/or antecedents to make slimy political points on Indian Nationalism.
I think there should be a limit even on 'Joto Dws Nondo Ghws' blame syndrom.
Rajen Barua is notorious in the community for that blame.
However, to set the record right, in this case, all Rajen Barua did was to state the following:
>Great to know such good Indians working selflessly in NE. It looks like he was also like Sanjay Ghosh doing NGO work in Majuli who was reportedly been killed by ULFA.
Where did you see the slimy political points on Indian Nationalism in my above statement?
I think you did not like it anyway. May be it spolied your mood.
Why we had to drag the dead guy Sanjoy Ghosh into the picture? Dead is dead.
Why we cannot pass that and proceed with our lives dreaming for a future Independent Assam?
I think the report is correct.
Assam has entered the stage of Upai Nai.
I still say Hobo Diok.
RB.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan Mahanta
To: Ram Sarangapani
Cc: Rajen Barua ; [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Assam Trip-2 Addendum
Ram:
At 10:55 PM -0600 1/3/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
I sincerely hope we can all get past this.
*** I do too. But it was Rajen Barua who found it necessary to use RVC and Ravi's state / national origins and/or antecedents to make slimy political points on Indian Nationalism.
Looks like the Foot-in-the-Mouth disease is reappearing in Assam net with a vengeance.
>To me it really matter little if they are doing it for India, an independent >Assam or China for that matter. The fact that they are making a big difference >in the lives of so many poor people - that itself is important to me.
*** If all of us were that sophisticated, we will have something going, wouldn't we?
c-da
IMHO, it is imperative that we all understand that small groups like RVC & Ashadeep are doing something that most of us can only hope of doing someday.
These are the people who are actually serving the needs of the needy, and the least we can do is to help their cause. Because their cause is our cause, ultimately. They are the people at the grassroots and that itself is important.To me it really matter little if they are doing it for India, an independent Assam or China for that matter. The fact that they are making a big difference in the lives of so many poor people - that itself is important to me.
--Ram
On 1/3/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Oh, another thing. While you are at it, on the subject of asking him what his motives are, also ask him about your HEROES like Sanjoy Hazarika and Jayanta Madhav who gave you interviews like visiting royalty and what he thinks about what they are promoting for Assam.
That would be fun to watch.
At 9:17 PM -0600 1/3/06, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>I can see the connection you are trying to make.
*** *I* am attempting to make a connection ?
Either there is a serious ongoing reading comprehension problem, or an eruption of unmitigated schutzpah.
>But I donot think these good Indians are treating Assam as their colony.
*** Good Britishers did not treat the Indians as colonial vassals either - they treated them like humans.
>They are doing the selfless work thinking they are doing it for their own country, their Mother India.
*** That is What RAJEN Barua would like to connect to. More than likely it is the HUMAN one, not the INDIAN NATIONALISTIC one. Perhaps Rajen Barua would like to ask Ravindranath, instead of speculating and ASSIGNING motives to him.
>Even for a moment they donot think that Assam and the North East is not India.
*** Go ahead and ASK Ravindranath, if you have the intestinal fortitude to do so, WHY he does what he does. And I am certain he would TELL you,and your kind, because I can tell he has what it takes.
cm
At 6:11 PM -0600 1/3/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>*** There were a lot of very fine Britishers also use to do social work in India while it was a colony.
> And a number of them were killed by Indians.
> Any connection here?
I can see the connection you are trying to make.
But I donot think these good Indians are treating Assam as their colony.
They are doing the selfless work thinking they are doing it for their own country, their Mother India.
Even for a moment they donot think that Assam and the North East is not India.
Do you?
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan Mahanta
To: Rajen Barua
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Assam Trip-2
*** There were a lot of very fine Britishers also use to do social work in India while it was a colony.
And a number of them were killed by Indians.
Any connection here?
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajen Barua
To: [email protected] ; Chan Mahanta
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Assam Trip-2
>Ravindra Nath , son of UP and Bengali parents, studied Appropriate Technology
>( and something else) at IIT-Delhi. He got involved with NGO work under the noted social worker (?) Bunker Roy. He started at the NE at Arunachal and later >moved down to Akajan/Silapthar. That is all I know of Ravi. Ravi's wife, Sathyasree is from Guwahati.
Great to know such good Indians working selflessly working in NE. It looks like he was also like Sanjay Ghosh doing NGO work in Majuli who was reportedly been killed by ULFA.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan Mahanta
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:52 AM
Subject: [Assam] Assam Trip-2
Dear Netters,
I spoke about the very fine things that the Rural Volunteer Center ( RVC) is doing at Akajan. Ravindranath and his wife Sathyasree Goswami, who live at Silapathar and lead their many efforts are making a measurable difference for the many people whose lives have been ravaged by repeated floods. Today I hope to tell you a little more about them and RVC.
Ravindra Nath , son of UP and Bengali parents, studied Appropriate Technology
( and something else) at IIT-Delhi. He got involved with NGO work under the noted social worker (?) Bunker Roy. He started at the NE at Arunachal and later moved down to Akajan/Silapthar. That is all I know of Ravi. Ravi's wife, Sathyasree is from Guwahati. The following about herself,is in her own words:
"I am an Assamese born as the 6th daughter to Mr. P.N. Goswami and Ms. Biva Goswami of Chenikuthi. educated partly in Cotton College i have been working in Akajan from 1995 and took a break for two years to work with drought affected people of Anantapur district of Andhra Pradesh. Now I volunteer for RVC and I have started a collective called shakti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to work on holistic community health and right to health and health care, where I work full time based in Akajan village."
I did not get to meet Sathyasree as she was with her ailing mother at Guahati. But I had the privilege of staying overnight at RVC's guest-house. Ravi and the other volunteers live there as well. Their little campus was like an 'ashram', with all kinds of undertakings going on. They even have a satellite dish
with a high-speed internet network, which they acquired with some wiles, a necessity in today's world but a luxury beyond imagination in Assam and particularly at a place like Akajan.
Guile and wiles in addition to a dedicated sense of service have been essential for RVC's continued existence and success. What they face everyday is not something for the faint of heart or for the occasional do-gooder like ourselves.
Ravi recounted a number of anecdotes while he and a couple of his associates took me around to show some of the many wonderful things they are doing all over. I was awed by the obstacles they face and how they make little dents, one at a time, to make a difference. They have spawned other volunteers like themselves or have joined hands with others in different ways by sharing their resources and experiences.
One such effort that I was highly impressed by was a road building project organized by the Mising students' association--the name of which eludes me --led by a young Mising, Pegu, whose first name I forget, who also was a Cotton College Union Secy.--a powerful position as we well know. He and John - another Mising, trained at B'lore as an MBA I think, were leading over a thousand young volunteers who were building a road -- a lifeline for a series of villages which was washed away, but did not get repaired/replaced by the Govt or the GOs entrusted with the responsibility, with sheer hand power-with nothing but hoes. They come from miles around and are required to sleep over at poly-tents . They are fed by volunteers who prepare meals in the harvested rice paddies, like the 'bhoj' prior to the 'meji' at Magh Bihu, except it is not much of a feast. The logistics of feeding so many was amazing. It was partially funded by a program called "Food for Work" I believe. Ravi explained that the govt. did nothing for years. Ultimately the people had to gear into action.
Attached herewith is one document describing RVC and its many programs. I will send two more under separate mail.
I know I wrote a lot--and it always runs the risk of NOT being read. But I hope some would take a little interest, and spread the word, the good news. Because Assam can use many more of such efforts as RVC's. And they are gearing up to train those leaders for just that. Let us hope we too can do a little to give them the support they so richly deserve.
Best to all.cm
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