>A good place for answers to your question would be to go ask the people
where ULFA come from. It certainly could not be found in Assam Net, not in the
>ranks of Guahati middle classes' heard earned wealth
building Assam or amongst the freedom-loving elites enriched by
GoI's loot.
Nor will the answers be found
in poor people of Assam.
Nor will the answer be found in the
rich people of Assam.
Have we left anybody?
May be there may not be any
answers.
Do you know where ULFA came
from?
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:21
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Dainik
Agradoot
C'da,
>A good place for answers to your question would be to go ask the
people where ULFA come from
But they DO HAVE advisors the world over - and some who
are very conversant in these matters of hard currencies.
--Ram
On 1/20/06, Chan
Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ram:
A good place for answers to your question would be to go ask the people
where ULFA come from. It certainly could not be found in Assam Net, not in
the ranks of Guahati middle classes' heard earned wealth building Assam or
amongst the freedom-loving elites enriched by GoI's loot.
At 10:20 AM -0600 1/20/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
MM da,
We certainly need to ask Delhi and GOA too -
whenever there are misappropriations. So, IT IS NOT an excuse of the
GOI or the GOA to escape any accountability.
But since ULFA has taken money from Assam for the
last so many decades, the people of Assam ought to be given a explanation
as to how that money was spent and where the rest of it is?
The same standards of accountability must be
imposed on GOI/GOA and the ULFA - after all they are the parallel govt,
and govts. ought to be accountable for their actions.
About how they 'earned' the money in the first
place will have to be dealt with at another time possibily.
--Ram
On 1/20/06, mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
May I butt in?
<<ask the ULFA for some of the same accountability of
where all the money they looted for 25+ years has gone and all the
murders they have committed>>
To the Useless Indian Economy after a few
movements.
Loot? Ask
Delhi
mm
From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chan
Mahanta < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: Assam
Organisation <
[email protected]>
Subject:
Re: [Assam] Dainik Agradoot
Date: Fri, 20 Jan
2006 09:32:23 -0600
C'da, Mayur
Could I butt in a bit:
>*** Did the two killers/attackers have brands on their
foreheads
> forever
assuring the outraged like yourself that they were ULFA
> and not
anything else?
No the don't. But that is the advantage of being an
insurgent.
They don't wear uniforms
They can mix in easily with the innocent
They can hit and run (and hide among the
innocent)
When its is advantageous, they can claim a bombing or a
murder or an extortion.
If public winds blow the other way, they can always claim
'it wasn't US, it was the SULFA, the Army pretending to be us and so
on).
RB (Rajen Barua) brought out a very good point the other
day, when you claimed that the ULFA has been running a parallel
government for decades.
If that is so, why didn't this parallel government SHOW
the inept GOA or the GOI what things a government can do.
Why don't they teach the GOI/GOA a thing or two about
democracy and governance?
All this parallel govt. has shown the people of Assam
is the expertise in the arts of extortion, murder, hide and
seek, and mayhem. If the GOI and GOA are corrupt and inept, this
parallel Govt. shows us the pitfalls of buying into their 'lofty
ideals'.
We often talk about "accountability" (at least C'da does),
and rightly so.
So C'da, why don't you ask the ULFA for some of the same
accountability of where all the money they looted for 25+ years has
gone and all the murders they have committed. (or haven't they killed
anyone innocent at all?).
--Ram
On 1/20/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Hi Mayur:
>By being 'analytical', I don't want to belittle
the
extreme courage shown by those two boys in response
to
the dastardly and heinous act perpetrated by
'the
>sunshine boys' in the name of Assam's
independence.
*** I don't think I or anyone else suggested you
do.
But having stood by the bravery of the two kids, WHERE
is the rest of your 'analytical' assessment of the
report?
Certainly not what you wrote below. Or do you consider
that an analytical assessment of the report in the Agradoot ?
Personally I consider that a diatribe, a shooting off of your mouth
against MRG, without any demonstration of any analytical ability on
your part. See Mayur, epithet slinging does not substitute for
thoughtful deliberation of an issue. I would have hoped someone of
your caliber, training and position in society would be cognizant of
that.
Anyway, allow me to share MY views of the REPORT in the
Agradoot:
*** I join
you in recognizing the valor of the two Bodo kids.
*** I hold
judgement on GoI's acts of generosity in felicitating
them with
heroes' welcome, if not trash it outright as yet another
thoroughly
hypocritical bit of shameless propaganda.
Why, you
would ask I am sure? For the simple reason of numerous
acts
of
governmental terrorism that GoI has perpetrated on people of
Assam
while never
ceasing to spout fealty to democratic principles. If you
need further
explanation of it, do ask I will be pleased to furnish.
But be
forewarned :-), that such display of ignorance carries a
price
too, of one's
naivete, biases and lack of credibility.
I will add
one more item to it: Remember the case of the unarmed
villagers ( I
forget in Kamrup or Barpeta) a couple of years back,
when they
attacked a group of armed marauders, who later turned
out to be
Indian Army soldiers, without uniform,who then open fire
on
the villagers
killing several and wounding many.
Did you
hear of the GoI holding these unarmed villagers as heroes
defending
themselves from armed thugs? Did the GOI undertake
a judicial
investigation and deliver justice? If they did what was
it?
Did the Assam
rags report on it, the same rags that you wave at us
today with
the two kids' heroism?
*** What did
the report tell you or me about WHY the school
teacher was
attacked and/or executed by these so-called ULFA men?
Because they
did not like him/them? Because he/they did not pay
ransom?
He/they had
some other feud between them? It is obvious you are
ignorant of
one of the fundamentals of justice that when one is
charged
with a
particular crime, MOTIVES must be demonstrated for
conviction.
Just
because the police says, or the rags report, that it
was
perpetrated
by ULFA, (and of course thus all heinous motives could
be attributed
to them) and so justice is done; is not adequate
information
for discerning viewers to judge it.
Sorry to see
you ( and all those others in your shoes) are still
not there
yet.
*** Did the
two killers/attackers have brands on their foreheads
forever
assuring the outraged like yourself that they were ULFA
and not
anything else? And if they did not, was it determined
from
investigations, prosecution in a court of law ( not the
kangaroo
variety now) and justice delivered that indeed they
were ULFA,
perpetrated the crime on credibly delineated
motive/s?
If so HOW do
YOU or the Agradoot knows that? Did they share that
info., or is
it privileged info. meant only for the righteous
like
yourselves?
*** This is
not an argument: But I also want to rub it in on some of
our
baam-exparts ( wannabe experts) who have contended time and
again
that the
Bodos refuse to be a part of Assam and thus would imply
that they
also would have no part of ULFA. If so how is it that
these
two Bodo men
are branded 'durdhorxo' ULFA ?
Finally, I will however would NOT hesitate to declare,
that if it was a blood-thirsty criminal act of killing this teacher
in cold blood without any perceptible motive, perpetrated by some
real ULFA cadres, it is unconscionable.
But something tells me there is a whole lot more to the
story than meets the eye. And those of us who are ready to pass
judgement without wanting to know more, if not all about it, have a
lot of growing up to do intellectually.
You asked for it Mayur :-).
Take care,
c-da
PS: I would spare you today on your diatribe against
MRG. But don't expect a free pass next time :-).
At 11:48 PM -0800 1/19/06, mayur bora wrote:
C' da
Hor are you ? Writing for the first time
in the new
year.
By being 'analytical', I don't want to belittle
the
extreme courage shown by those two boys in response
to
the dastardly and heinous act perpetrated by
'the
sunshine boys' in the name of Assam's independence.
I
will not be surprised if MRG gets influenced and
starts
acknowledging Dhemaji Misdeeds of your freedom
fighters as
'normal' after reading some of the recent
posts in assamnet. I can only hope that she does
not
come near a computer in the near future. Like
any
responsible citizen in society, she is entitled to
have
her own viewpoints regarding anything. But she
must be very careful in making public
pronouncements
as she is trying to bring about much needed
peace in
Assam by facilitating talks beween GoI and
ULFA
through PCG. She should not give opportunity to others
to accuse her of derailing the talks in future
by
recklessly shooting off her mouth.
Mayur
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