>  >So true, and these damn nay-sayers are just like those who keep egging
>the 'natives' to strive for independence from afar.
>In the end, there ain't much difference between the two -:)


*** Not so Ram. They are not only NOT the same. Actually there is a 
huge difference. Those who give at least moral support to those who 
are fighting for as noble a cause as the pursuit of FREEDOM, are 
doing something constructive, as opposed to the nay-sayers and the 
fence-sitters wrapped up in their dubious morality.

:-)









At 10:25 AM -0600 2/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>C'da,
>
>>  *** But plenty to discourage, and oppose Assam's 
>>independence >from afar though.
>>  Ever wondered why :-)?
>
>So true, and these damn nay-sayers are just like those who keep egging
>the 'natives' to strive for independence from afar.
>In the end, there ain't much difference between the two -:)
>
>--Ram
>
>On 2/14/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >  >In any case, haven't heard of any NRAs going back to Assam with that
>>  >purpose in mind or to help her in 'her struggle for independence'.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *** But plenty to discourage, and oppose Assam's independence from 
>>afar though.
>>
>>  Ever wondered why :-)?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  At 9:36 AM -0600 2/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>  >C'da,
>>  >>  But is there no room for these doctors in BOOMING India?
>>  >
>>  >There is room out there. But the lure of the West exists even now.
>>  >At Heathrow one sees many Indians working in menial jobs, and we hope
>>  >these are only temporary (till they get the cushy jobs). But if these
>>  >are career moves, one wonders why someone would travel 5000 miles just
>>  >to clean airports in far of lands.
>>  >
>>  >It may be that 'pride' to show the natives that they are 'phoreners'.
>>  >
>>  >>I hear >there is a reverse exodus in the making -- for desis
>>  >>returning to the >boom town of India.
>>  >
>>  >Yes, there is a reverse exodus, but its not a stampede yet. As soon as
>>  >the immigrants can command similar wages ($ for $ or pound for pound)
>>  >in India, you would see the money trail.
>>  >
>>  >Immigrants will go back only for money (in most cases). I have yet to
>>  >hear of any one going back to 'serve' the desh.
>>  >
>>  >In any case, haven't heard of any NRAs going back to Assam with that
>>  >purpose in mind or to help her in 'her struggle for independence'.
>>  >
>>  >Mostly, its all about cash and more cash and that 'phoren' mentality.
>>  >And we can find enough excuses why we don't go back.
>>  >
>>  >--Ram
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >On 2/14/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >>  Hi Rini:
>>  >>
>>  >>  That is pretty tragic.
>>  >>
>>  >>  I have seen this report around before.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Have only one question: I can understand B'deshis or 
>>Pakistanis' problems.
>>  >>  But is there no room for these doctors in BOOMING India?  I 
>>hear there is a
>>  >>  reverse
>>  >>  exodus in the making -- for desis returning to the boom town of India.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Something does not sound right. Somebody isn't telling the truth.
>>  >>
>>  >>  c
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  At 2:53 PM +0000 2/14/06, Rini Kakati wrote:
>>  >>  They came, they saw, they became depressed - that, in short, 
>>is the story of
>>  >>  thousands of young unemployed doctors from the Indian subcontinent in
>>  >>  Britain, hoping against hope to get a job in the National Health Service
>>  >>  (NHS)
>>  >>
>>  >>  Living almost in poverty, the doctors - estimated to be nearly 
>>6,000 - have
>>  >>  been reduced to partaking free meals in temples and gurdwaras across
>>  >>  Britain. Some have been forced to take up whatever work they 
>>can find : in
>>  >>  petrol stations or fast-food chains or as supermarket attendants.
>>  >>
>>  >>  They all have a message to their counterparts in India who might be
>>  >>  considering moving to Britain: think twice, the job market for overseas
>>  >>  doctors is no longer as bright here as it used to be until a 
>>few years ago.
>  > >>
>>  >>  The situation for these qualified medical professionals is so 
>>grim that the
>>  >>  respected British Medical Journal, in its latest issue, 
>>published a list of
>>  >>  ailments they suffer from including obessive compulsive disorders, skin
>>  >>  manifestations diseases and hallucinations.
>>  >>
>>  >>  The doctors, mainly hailing from India but also including some from
>>  >>  Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh find themselves in a fix.
>>  >>
>>  >>  "With what face do we go back to India and say that we could 
>>not get a job
>>  >>  in Britain? We took loans from family and friends to come here 
>>and now that
>>  >>  money has run out," Deepak (name changed), a doctor from Delhi.
>>  >>
>>  >>  There are several reasons for too many doctors chasing too few 
>>jobs here.
>>  >>  The NHS has been facing budget cuts for some years, forcing it 
>>to reduce its
>>  >>  manpower.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Local medical colleges are also producing more medical 
>>graduates, many of
>>  >>  whom find themselves in the same situation as their Indians 
>>counterparts -
>>  >>  they are also unable to find jobs.
>>  >>
>>  >>  The disheartened doctors refrain from conveying the real 
>>situation back home
>>  >>  for fear of loss of face and because their family members 
>>would be shattered
>>  >>  to know their fate.
>>  >>
>>  >>  A doctor of Indian origin, who holds a senior post in the NHS, said
>>  >  > "Hundreds of applications are received for even minor jobs, mostly from
>>  >>  these unemployed Indian doctors. Nobody has time to go through them".
>>  >>
>>  >>  "You need to show some work experience to brighten your job 
>>prospects but it
>>  >>  is extremely difficult to get that work experience. Some hospitals now
>>  >>  charge the unemployed doctors to work for a few days or weeks 
>>so that they
>>  >>  can then claim some work experience. But that too is no 
>>guarantee of a job".
>>  >>
>>  >>  A major reason for the large number of unemployed Indian 
>>doctors, he said,
>>  >>  was the increased frequency of holding mandatory qualifing 
>>test called the
>>  >>  Professional and Linguistic Assessment Board (PLAB) test. Every overses
>>  >>  doctor needs to pass this test before being registered for possible
>>  >>  employment.
>>  >>
>>  >>  "Earlier this test used to be held twice or thrice a year. Now 
>>it is held
>>  >>  twice or thrice a week. The success rate is also higher with 
>>the result that
>>  >>  there are now more doctors who have cleared the test but there 
>>are just no
>>  >>  jobs going around"
>>  >>
>>  >>  According to official figures, nearly 1,000 passed the test in 
>>1998, but the
>>  >>  number sprung to  6,666 in 2005.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Parts of the PLAB test are held in centres in India while one 
>>part is held
>>  >>  in London. Some coaching centres have sprung up in places such 
>>as East Ham
>>  >>  where PLAB candidates live in cramped and damp living 
>>conditions - over 10
>>  >>  people to a house with cockroaches and bed bugs for company.
>>  >>
>>  >>  After passing the test, the growing army of such doctors 
>>remain in Britain
>>  >>  to apply for jobs despite facing unemployment, povertry and 
>>discrimination.
>>  >>  But failure to get jobs means they need to repeatedly get their visas
>>  >>  extended, which puts additional strain on their meagre resources.
>>  >>
>>  >>  After 10 east European countries joined the European Union in 
>>2004, doctors
>>  >>  from these countries have the right to work in Britain, which 
>>has increased
>>  >>  the number of potential applicants for NHS jobs. In 2005, 
>>several dentists
>>  >>  were recruited from Poland.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Rini Kakati
>>  >>
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