Maybe they should hand over the military management toi some MNC like McKinsey!
Umesh
PS: Indian military is like an excellent driver with an old battered van to compete in Salt Lake Grand Prix - good human resources --no money to buy weapons etc
Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities,>efficiency or expertise, Ram?It really doesn't C'da. But what you painted about the inefficiencies in the military, the GOI, mal-governance, corruption at all levels, politicians meddling, total lack of expertise in any field, and top it off with an inefficient govt. which has no clue where its heading - thats seems to be perfect fertile ground for some errant general to take over the country.So, if one were to subscribe to the above doom & gloom scenario, a logical question is why hasn't there been a coup?Something must be going right - is it that the military is well-managed, or is it the Govt. or it is something else?Just wondering.--Ram
On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Since when has the absence of a coup become the measure of a military's abilities, efficiency or expertise, Ram?
At 9:51 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:C'da,>Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost >of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies.For a moment I thought you were talking about the US Defense Dept. Jane's Defense Weekly (out of England) does a pretty good job - and is critical when they see fit and necessary.The inherent weaknesses you talk about exists probably in all military institutions, but to say that the Indian military just doesn't possess tech skills or that it can get by without it (as they are not sophisticated) tantamounts to ignoring reality.The Indian military's never had a coup (and can never have one). If its so disorganized and politicized as you say it is, India would have had at least 4 or 5 coups in the last 50+ years.Can you tell us why there has never been a military coup in India despite all the problems in governance that you often state exists in India?--Ram
On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, if Jane's says so, that must be the last word, right?
But think again Ram. It is also all very RELATIVE. Compared to who?
Indian armed forces are just poorly managed -- dysfunctional, as any other Indian undertaking.
They have many excellent people. But they all will tell you the same story: Poor management and NO management, corruption, ineptitude, political interference, nepotism and cronyism are only some of the high-points. Nothing unique actually. All militaries suffer from that. Unfortunately they usually get a blank check, to squander scarce resources, at the cost of the general public, purportedly for defending them from them enemies.
But WHO are those enemies of India? Aren't they MANUFACTURED ones? Most of them being their own?
At 9:05 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
C'da,>I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot >about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need >skills to use what they have.
hehehe - you must be talking about them days of yore :-)Things are a tad different these days. I have read some reports fromJane's Defense analyses (one of the best Defense info sources in the world) which has all praises for India' military and sophistication.
You must be mistaking the Indian military for the B team they usually send to fight militants in Assam :-)
--Ram
On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 8:35 AM -0500 5/14/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
Well, it not just 'drivers' but also in engineering and designers that they would recruit.The Indian Army has an Engineering Corps and so does the Navy.
*** Come now Ram! Are you serious? Indian Army or Navy or Air Force making USE of engineering skills and abilities? I have good friends in all three of those branches. And I know a lot about the state affairs. They don't need HIGH SKILLS. They need skills to use what they have.
--Ram
On 5/14/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 7:37 AM +0530 5/14/06, mc mahant wrote:
>IAF Ought to recruit IITians as Planes/systems Redesigners-not drivers.
*** Exactly right!
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>So too what a waste if IITians and IIMians end up as call station
>attendants/website designers!
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