Re: [Assam] Mount Everest

Mon, 15 May 2006 11:24:54 -0700

Observation: Nepal would have been a part of today's India if the British had conquered Nepal.
Question: Why didn't the British try hard to include Nepal in the empire, like the rest of India? Why did they remain satisfied after taking Kumaon and Garhwal from Nepal?
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Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am pretty sure if one took a poll, most Indians would opt to keep the name Everest.
 
From the history (that Barua just sent) looks like the British were the first to take any kind of interest in the survey and calculations and also to recognize the need for adventure.

No, I would still like the name Everest, and K-22 or whatever to remain the same.
 
>Indians never really considered Nepal anything but a vassal state >of India's. So, if it is something that is in Nepal, but is getting >noticed by others, desis are perfectly at liberty to claim it as their >own.
 
Thats a strange twist. Most Indians, I would think, don't. It could well be the Nepali psyche thats at fault here.
 
Here is a story of Norgay. Born a Nepali, everything else he did in life (and also his son) centered itself around India, and Indians.
Maybe someone will come and tell us how the Indians "stole"
Norgay.
 
--Ram
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Profile of Tenzing Norgay
On May 29, 1953, Tenzing Norgay and teammate Edmund Hillary reached the summit of Mt. Everest. Tenzing received instant acclaim for his unprecedented achievement. He quickly became a global ambassador for the Sherpa people. Here are a few facts to know:
Born: 1914. This is an approximation based on the Tibetan lunar calendar. At the time of Tenzing's birth, the Sherpas did not keep written birth records.
Birthplace: Tsa-chu, Nepal.
Raised in: Thami, Nepal (a village near the border of Tibet, and close to Mt. Everest).
Family: One of 13 children.
Languages: Spoke seven languages, but never learned how to write.
Work: 1933 moved to Darjeeling, India, to work as a trekking porter.
War Years: Indian army ski instructor.
Everest Trips:
1935 — First expedition, accompanying Eric Shipton.
1953 — Reaches summit at age 39.
After Everest: Opened mountaineering school in Darjeeling, India, to train other locals as mountaineering guides.
Died: May 9, 1986.
To learn more about Tenzing Norgay, go to NOVA Online's site about Tenzing: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/nova/everest/history/norgay.html
 
 
On 5/15/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well said!

 
No doubt HT proposed the name change to inculcate self-esteem among Indians. Indians never really considered Nepal anything but a vassal state of India's. So, if it is something that is in Nepal, but is getting noticed by others, desis are perfectly at liberty to claim it as their own. But mind you, it has to be something that is noticed by the world-- make it the western world. HT is obviously aware of the desi lack of self-esteem problem. So he was suggesting that it be re-named after Radhanath Sikdar who might very well have been the man who did the actual calculations to determine what the colonial masters credited their man to. Except that this whole idea,of re-naming things, or tearing down ancient structures (built by them invaders for example) or building a bridge to no-where or erecting statues in the imaginary likeness of historical figures  and the the like, like you point out, is well, um, not very bright shall we say?
It is in the same vein as that light-weight general of the Hinduttwa army attempting to build kharkhowa self-esteem by raising a statue of Lasit Borphukon
at that military academy somewhere in Tamil Nadu. Light-weight indeed; certain kharkhowas with abject low self-esteem going ga-ga over it not-withstanding.

 

 

 

 
At 1:16 AM -0500 5/15/06, Barua25 wrote:
>"urge the netters to dig out the history and discuss the matter in the net"
 
When you have proposed to rename the peak as Mt Radhanath, on the plea that radhanath Sikdar did the calculations, there is nothing for the netters to dig out. I hope you understand that. 
 
I failed to understand what right we Indians have first to rename a peak which is even not in India, but in Nepal and Tibbet. And what we Indian try to achieve by renaming? Any move to rename anything is political. I hope you will understand that? If at all it has to be renamed it will have to either Sagarmatha or Chumulunga. But why? I think the present Mt Everest is as good a name as one can have.  What is your objection to naming Mt Everest? IncidentlyGeorge Everest himself suggested that it should not be named after him. Read the book: "The Great Arc : The Dramatic Tale How India was Mapped and Everest was Named"- John Keay.
 
I would really understand if you would urge the netters to instead rename Hinduism as Sindhuism. Hindu as Sindhu or India and Bharat. That will makes more sense. Hindu and Hinduism and India are names, a you probably know, coined by the 'mlessas'.
 
RB.
 

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