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Umesh:
Yes. For Christian, I should have
written the term Judio-Christian which include all three (Jadism, Christian and
Islam). Bahai, Sikh are modern religions, and we may exclude. I donot
think they have separate creation theories.
But the point I am making is
this:
The purpose God in
Religions is one and one only. They need a God as an operator to start the
universe. That is there must be someone who started all this creation. Normally
we cannot imagine the universe the way we find it as a self
operating automatic eternal system without a creator - which the Budhist
philosophy prescribe.
In Hindusim, we find many different
self contradictory creation theories. Sometimes it tells that the system is
eternal and then it will say there is a God who started all this. The point is
if we believe it is eternal, then Buddhist theory is correct and we donot
need anybody to start it, and God becomes irrelevent and all our worship to God
meaningless. (If it is etenrnal and running under a set of laws, why we need a
God?). It seems to me that Hinduism actually wants both, it wants to have and
eat the cake at the same time. In the process, theism in Hindusim becomes very
week indeed unlike Judio-Christian religion where we have a strong God without
any ifs and buts. In Hindusim we donot have strong God (that is Allah) who
speaks to us.
Please read more and ask me
questions so that we can clarify.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Hindu-Christian
Big-Bang Theory
Rajen-da and Himendra-da,
Why leave out other religions who follow the Old testament -which
describes the Creation aspect. So it should be
Hindu-Jewish-Christian-Muslim-Bahai-Sikh(?) Big Bang Theory :)
Dear
Hineda:
The Nasadiya Sukta of Rik Veda
is also a creation theory which basically says that there was a
beginning.
"It is a "cosmology" hymn, that seeks to explain the
origin of creation. Briefly, it describes the chaos that
preceded creation, when there was neither death nor immortality. From
this chaos, the "One", animated by its own impulse,
breathed and came into existence. (Big Bang?) From the
unfathomable depths of water, from the darkness of the cosmic void, emerged
this spirit, animated by desire."
If you are thinking that Big
Bang theory does not confrm to the Nasadiiya Sukta, that is a non
conformance of degree only and not of kind. Both the Hindu creation theory (Nasadiya Sukta) and the
Big Bang theory basically says that the universe was created once
uon a time.
The Buddhist theory says that
these is no beginning of the universe at all.
Buddhist theory is against the
Big Bang theory and the Nasadiya Sukta also. (In fact I was trying give
credit to the Hindu theory that it conforms to science). It does not see any difference
bewteen the Big Bang theory and the Nasadiya Sukta.
In Hinduism iteself you will
find many other self contradictions if you dig the criptures. Self
contradiction is part of Hindu philosophy.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:27
PM
Subject: Re: Hindu-Christian Big-Bang
Theory
Dear Barua,
Kindly check the Nasadiya Sukta of Rik Veda.
That appears to be in contradiction to what you have said about
Hinduism.
With the best wishes,
Himendra
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:39
PM
Subject: Re: Hindu-Christian
Big-Bang Theory
Himenda:
Specifically the Big Bang
theory of the origin of our universe is a scientific theory and not a
religious theory. However, I am calling it a Hindu-Christian theory
simply becuse the theory of Big Bang conforms to the views of
religions like Christianity, Hindusim and all other theistic religions
that believe in God.
The very basic of a belief
in one God is that it is God who created this universe 'once upon a
time'. Although actual creation theories may be different in different
religions, but the sense is the same that our universe has a beginning
and this beginning was done by God 'once upon a time'.
Scientists, mostly God
fearing Christians, are also trying to prove scientifically that our
universe has an origin and this origin was the time when 'big
bang' occurred some billions of years
ago.
Buddhism does not support
this view.
According to Buddhism,
briefly speaking, there is no God who started this universe, and the
universe does not have a beginning.
A minority scientists
support this Buddhist view that our universe does not have a
beginning.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 5:05
PM
Subject: Hindu-Christian Big-Bang
Theory
Dear Barua,
Why are are you calling "Big-Bang" a
"Hindu-Christian" Theory ?
With the best wishes,
Himendra
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:12
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Wiki: For
Rajen-da: Buddha's previous births :Boddisattvas, Hindu Incarntaions
etc
Umesh:
I never said Buddhist
does not believe in rebirth. The theory of "Karma" and "rebirth" are
parts of Buddhist philosophy. But these philosophies are
somewhat different from Hindu counterparts because basically
Buddhists donot believe in the (Hindu-Christian) "soul"
theory, and the "God" theory. Both these concepts are illogical
according to Buddhist philosophy. That makes the difference.
Buddhist philosophy conform to modern science of "Quantum Physics",
"Conservation of Energy" etc. The "God" theory does not.
Buddhist philosophy does not believe in the Hindu-Christian "Big Bang"
theory that God started this Universe by pressing a
switch.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006
9:37 AM
Subject: [Assam] Wiki: For
Rajen-da: Buddha's previous births : Boddisattvas,Hindu
Incarntaions etc
For Rajen-da,
Buddhists also believe in rebirth and have a concept of
Boddhisattvas. I saw in East Asian art musems many sculptures of
previosu Boddhisattvas --of Buddha. Dalai Lama is also a rebirth
of the previous Dalai Lama. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva
Umesh
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