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Ram:
That type of argument simply lead
us to a twilight zone. 'Everybody does corruption, so what is new in this, let
us do it'-type of mentality. 'Everybody does compromise with truth etc
etc/
Sorry to see that again in your
defense for Hinduism.
Your argument for the action of the
BJPs also ring such tone. Question you did not answer was that no Hindus has
opposed the BJP move so far as we know it. So we can always say that 'Oh don't
worry, some ignorant BJP are doing that'. It is the same mentality which
lead us to the defense of ULFA insurgents,: 'Don't worry, it is only the
ignorant 'boys' doing it.'
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 1:02
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] India's Government
Strikes Mention of Beef Eaters FromNew History Books on Ancient India
"The cow is a four footed domestic animal. It is the most useful to all
animals. Cow gives us milk, it ploughs our land, it pulls cart, it's dung is
used for making fire cakes, dung and urine are disinfectants and is used by
the rural folk to apply a layer on their mud houses, cowdung is used to
produce gobar gas. The dead carcass is used for fertilizer, bones are used for
making buttons, hide is used for leather etc. etc. etc.".
As a school kid we used to remember the essay on cow by heart. It
was only essay that used to appear in the question paper with religious
regularity.
It is a gross mis-utilisation if such an animal is used for eating the
flesh part only. I think down the ages at some point in the vedic time,
the cattle population dwindled to alrming level due to over eating may be,
threatening nutrition, farming etc. This was when religion was brought in and
the cow was saved by making it 'holy'.
mkd
On 6/17/06, Ram
Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Now why the Hindus should
have any problem in believing >this to be true, and why the Hindus try to
hide this fact by >distorting the record.
I really don't think mainstream Hindus have any problem in this. Many
Hindus recognize that ancient Hindus supposedly did eat beef. Who is trying
to hide this fact? Most Hindus don't care one way or the other about this.
The fact that some in the education department now or in previous BJP govt.
tried to rewrite some textbooks has little relevance to mainstream Hindus.
And just because some BJP or Congress minister wants to do this,
certainly does not mean "all Hindus". That is too broad a brush.
>Is that what Hindusim
teach: To compromise with the truth if >found not to one'e
liking?
I am not sure if you ever had
the chance to read the Old Testament and then compare it to the New
Testament? If you have, you would know that 'compromising the truth'
is not just a Hindu monopoly. And then extend this to the politically
correct interpretations of Islam.
Simply put, if you want to find
problems with religions and the faithful, you won't have to look far in any
religion.
On 6/17/06, Rajen
& Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:
Umesh:
It seems that the facts
are very clear. The Vedas recorded that the ancient Hindus used to
eat Beef. Now why the Hindus should have any problem in believing
this to be true, and why the Hindus try to hide this fact by distorting
the record. Is that what Hindusim teach: To compromise with the truth if
found not to one'e liking?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:50
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] India's
Government Strikes Mention of Beef Eaters From New History Books on
Ancient India
If Hindus do not believe the Vedas then who does --but lets not mix
religious beliefs with historical facts and reasoning --as many of
the Net say:))
Od do you want the history txtbooks to write as follows:
"Hindus believe that the ancient Hindus used to eat Holy cow - who is
their mother -as per their belief," --that makes no sense.
What do you propose?
The question is do the Hindus believe the
Vedas? Why you have to rely on what others believe?
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:26
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] India's
Government Strikes Mention of Beef Eaters From New History Books on
Ancient India
I wonder what proof we have (besides mention in Vedas [Rig Veda])
about Indians eating beef? As you know most Western historians would
not believe Hindu scriptures are historiucally true -then why quote
from them for beef eating?
1. India's Government Strikes Mention of Beef Eaters
From New History Books on Ancient India
NEW DELHI, INDIA, June 12, 2006: (HPI note: The irony of this
NCERT action is that the previous BJP government met with vigorous
opposition from the now ruling Congress party and allies when it
attempted to make the same change, considered an affront to
Hinduism, in the text books.)
References to ancient India's
beef-eaters have been done away with in NCERT's newly-introduced
history textbooks. NCERT, National Council of Educational Research
and Training, is the national commission responsible for the
textbooks in India's schools. NCERT changed the syllabus for Classes
I, III, VI, IX and XI from this year in accordance with the national
curriculum framework (NCF) 2005, to prescribe broad guidelines for
an ideal course curriculum. Till last year, Class VI and XI
textbooks had references to beef-eating habits. "These references
were there in ancient Indian history books for Classes VI and IX
till last year. Those textbooks have been replaced and the new ones
have no mention of beef-eating," NCERT spokesman Ashish Bahad said.
The reference had raised objections from several quarters last year
and a Public Interest Litigation was filed in the Supreme Court.
NCERT had also formed a three-member expert committee to look into
the matter. "Following the NCF 2005, NCERT developed new history
textbooks that attempt to arouse the curiosity of schoolchildren.
The books encourage students to find out historical facts on their
own," Bahad added.
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