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>How can you be in the middle? I doubt, if one could find anyone
(Assamese) who is neither here nor there :-)
Are you sure all the
people of Assam either for or against independence? Many people may not
support independence simply because at present they may not see anything
to support. It does not mean however that all those people are
against independence of Assam.
>I was not aware of
this.
This is basic elementary history stuff
which all people of Assam should know.
>But if this the case, then the most
important question is: Why this movement for independence? Are the
pro->independence people just brushing aside history? Why are they now
claiming otherwise?
Well there can be movement for
independence without the support of history based on the present state of
affairs if the people are for independence for whatver reasons. But I don't see
any movement on this basis. I don't see any discussions or debates on this
in a democratic process. Do you see any? Any independence movement based on
Assam's past history since Yandabu Xondhi is rather weak now and will get weaker
everyday, unlike that of the Nagas who has a stronger claim and who has been
fighting for their independence since 1940s. (Please note that we Assamese never
supported the independence movement of the Nagas and rather supported the GOI in
supressing the Nagas, BTW).
>I thought that this independence
movement was not based on cultural or historical differences or events, but on
the >aspirations of a few people for power.
I think you are wrong again. There are
cultural and historical differences. That is the crux of the problem. History,
language, culture, dress, food, religion - Assamese are different than the rest
of the Indians. However, in Assam there is a conflict between the Aryan
and Mongoloid culture. Since independence and before, caste Hindu Assamese
intellectuals are pulling towards Pan Indian Hindu culture undermining much of
the Mongoloid culture and diluting much of the Assamese original culture.
The attempt to abolish the name 'Assam' (which is an Assamese word derived
from the word 'Shyam' which is based on original Tai-Ahom source) is a latest
case in point angainst the supression of the Mongolid culture. However,
Assam is at present without any cultural or political leader to make things
right, and nobody is protesting openly. However all these pent up anger will
lead Assam into much darker future where all ethnic groups fighting against
each other.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:14
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] MC Mahanta's
bamboo-reinforcement
Dear Barua,
>This should not be
interpreted to mean that I support (or >object) Independence of
Assam
How can you be in the middle? I doubt, if one could find anyone
(Assamese) who is neither here nor there :-)
> If you read history,
Assam was actually begging Gandhi and Nehru and the >Congress, before 1947,
so that Assam can stay with India. (Please! let us >stay with
you guys, ami apwnalwkor nkina golam hoi thakim).
This is some very interesting
history. I was not aware of this. But if this the case, then the most
important question is: Why this movement for indpendence? Are the
pro-independence people just brushing aside history? Why are they now claiming
otherwise?
I wrote a post some days ago
(forget the exact words), where I thought that this indepenence movement was
not based on cultural or historial differences or events, but on the
aspirations of a few people for power. All they did was to play up on the
emotions of sections of the Assamese on issues like step-motherly treatment,
economically being sidelined etc. to keep the movement alive.
> (Is there any field
where Assam is taking a leadership role?)
How about bandhs? :-). No, no,
its not so bad. Today, we see many Assamese in leading roles throughout India,
both in Govt. and in the private sectors. But, unfortunately, very few
poistive things are happening in Assam itself.
--Ram
On 8/31/06, Barua25
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Ram:
Thanks.
Couple of clarifications lest
people mis-interpret my statement.
>Assamese are suffering from
an acute inferiority complex.
>That is why they want to
stay with India and are staying with India and will stay with India
forever.
>That is why they never
raised their voice to stay as an independent country at the time of
India's independence.
>Even now hardly any
Assamese are raising their voice for independence.
The above statement of mine
is just a statement of the realty. This should not be interpreted to
mean that I support (or object) Independence of Assam. I am simply
saying that Assamese is not a warrior people with high National spirit or
unity like the Nagas or other people and donot have the will, courage,
spirit and love of freedom for independence. I agree that
'independence' is definitely a 'pipe dream' now (specially since we
donot have any leader), but probably it was not a pipe dream when Assam was
under the British till 1947. (I have my own analysis why Assam lost
the freedom spirit after 1857 when Maniram Dewan was hanged). Today, whether
we NEED independence or not is completely another subject.
The second realty is that,
Assamese is not even an equal partner in the Indian Independence movement
and in the Indian Democratic game today. If you read history, Assam was
actually begging Gandhi and Nehru and the Congress, before 1947, so that
Assam can stay with India. (Please! let us stay with you guys,
ami apwnalwkor nkina golam hoi thakim). There was no movement for
an Independent Assam as an alternative to joining Pakistan. Assam could have
very well say it to the British, at that time: Please give us back our Assam
that you took from us in 1826. But Assam did not. In fact the Assamese
were so happy to be a part of India that Assamese wanted to forget the six
hundred years of Ahom rule. Assamese novelist wrote novels 'Kwnw Khed
Nai" (No Regret) ridiculing the six hundred years of Ahom rule. Eminent
man of literature took comfort and wrote auto-biography titled :
"Kongresor Kasioli Rodot". This is a realty.
Now having joined India
on its own choice (or its own begging) we are complaining that India is
treating Assam like a step child. Today the insurgency in Assam is
happening as a negative outlet because of lack of leadership in Assam. It is
not a positive movement for independence by any means.
Your statement that
"They very
well know that their lot is in much better state staying with India than
being independent."
Actually
people of Assam donot have any choice, do they? Your statement also
goes to show that people of Assam lack even the confidence in their own
people. In other words it goes to prove my statement that they are suffering
from a acute inferiority complex.
If one
analyze the stream of events, one will come to the conclusion, that Assamese
is a follower, a litikai to the mainland Indians. (Is there any field where
Assam is taking a leadership role?) This is a realty.
That is and will be Assam's lot
till we can create new and competent leaders. The earlier we realize this
the better so that we can act.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:20
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] MC Mahanta's
bamboo-reinforcement
Dear Barua,
>Even now hardly any
Assamese are raising their voice for >independence.
Very few actually raised the
voice of independence, and fewer still do so today. I think, in case for
independence, most Assamese are actually being savvy and and realize what
a pipe dream this venture really is. They very well know that their lot is
in much better state staying with India than being independent. That is
why, you will find very few voices for independence.
I doubt they are
being 'litikai' at all.
Just my
thoughts.
--Ram
On 8/28/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I thought I never had to
respond.
Assamese are suffereing
from an acute inferiority complex.
That is why they want to
stay with India and are staying with India and will stay with India
forever.
That is why they never
raised their voice to stay as an independent country at the time of
India's independence.
Even now hardly any
Assamese are raising their voice for independence.
Today Assamese are not even
complaining against the GOI. They are simply saying that GOI is treating
Assam like a step child. All Assam wants, is GOI to treat them as a
'legitimate child.' They dream of the day when Mai Bap GOI would treat
them as their own child. That is all they want. That is the highest dream of an
Assamese. As a result they wait for GOI's command to say what Assam
would do so that they follow GOI like a 'litikai' and can please GOI.
Assamese could solve lot of
their problems if simply they would stand up and voice in confidence.
They are suffering so much
in inferiority complex, they even shy away to pronounce Oxom and are
trying to say Asom so that their big brothers would not laugh. There is
hardly any Assamese intellectual left in Assam. They even donot know
their own history and culture.
Poor, pathetic 'litikai'
Assamese with their 'tilika' minds.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] MC Mahanta's
bamboo-reinforcement
Rajen:
>It is an Assamese
problem of inferiority complex. Nobody will save the Assamese. We should
stop blamimg the GOI.
*** Can you explain how or why it is an Assamese problem only, free
of any connection or responsibility of GoI?
It is important to understand that, if your advice to 'stop blaming
GoI' is to be taken seriously.
c
At 11:12 PM -0500 8/22/06, Barua25 wrote:
>Not just no-
drinking/washing water-
>No solid waste
management/garbage collection/disposal fit for a
city
>No sewer/sewage
treatment/ storm-water disposal
Why
we don't hear any of these news in Kharkhowa News Papers? Why the news
papers in are interested in news from mainland India instead?
It is
an Assamese problem of inferiority complex. Nobody will save the
Assamese. We should stop blamimg the GOI.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: mc
mahant
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:21
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] MC Mahanta's
bamboo-reinforcement
Not just no- drinking/washing water-
No solid waste management/garbage collection/disposal
fit for a city
No sewer/sewage treatment/ storm-water
disposal
Raw sewage from so-called Septic tanks of 2 million
people just dumped into the pure river.What happens to the
health of Kamrup/Goalpara/Dhubri--and the whole nation
-Bangladesh?
And Delhi's very own Refinery dumps daily 100 tons of
Oil waste direct to river or through Guahati drain system/Bharalu
and no Pollution Control Board dares to touch them.
Indian Science does not know/cares to know that 1
drop of oil spreads to a film of 100 sq mtr opaque for
Oxygen.
No Oxygen-> no planktons->no fish->no Xihoo
(River Porpoise).
Who Cares!
P.S.Thanks for the free publicity {MC Mahanta's
bamboo-reinforcement}
Let ignorance/bigotry/mediocrity
thrive!!!
mm
From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Assam]
MC Mahanta's bamboo-reinforcement
Date: Tue,
22 Aug 2006 08:55:48 -0500
>This whole notion of a city,
with as large a population as Guahati,
>not having a
municipal water supply system is absolutely atrocious,
>and
that while sitting on the bank of the
Brahmaputra.
>
>It is entirely a result of the
dysfunctional desi-system of governance; which
>is
unaccountable to anyone, made up of thoroughly incompetent people,
and who
>do not have a clue as to how to tap into the
abilities and skills of
>its own
people.
>
>Nothing could change for the better under
this system. Only option is
>to dump it and build a new
society from its ashes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At
6:48 AM -0700 8/22/06, Rajib Das wrote:
> >The big
problem is there is no water under your land
> >in
Guwahati. As there are areas, including my house,
>
>where city water supply does not reach. Not that it
>
>would help greatly. At least 3 to 4 months of a year,
>
>it is the same problem.
> >
> >So the
problem exists. The solution is not under your
> >plot
of land. If Brahmaputra water can be
> >appropriately
filtered and sold, that is a different
> >animal all
together.
>
>
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