Rajib,
>About English being the influence as opposed to Hindi
>or Sanskrit - it might not be such a bad idea in the
>minds of some of the people making some of the posts.
>or Sanskrit - it might not be such a bad idea in the
>minds of some of the people making some of the posts.
If it were English, some of us would have been elated that Assamese was being Anglicized. But is is Sanskrit - so the 'principles' would have to be different.
>The question, however, is - if it is about identity is
>it such a big factor after all. Apart from a few
>people on the Net, is there a wave of indignation
>happening on the streets of Assam towards one or the
>other interpretations
>it such a big factor after all. Apart from a few
>people on the Net, is there a wave of indignation
>happening on the streets of Assam towards one or the
>other interpretations
Not a whimper. People in Assam may be more concerned about other issues touching their lives directly. I
--Ram
On 9/17/06, Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ramda,
The sanctity of the language is an integral component
of identity. As to how the language is represented in
the Roman script, whether it is Sanskritized or
Anglicized, or even how it is represented in its own
script is shaped by which direction the identity is
going. We all know identity is never static.
About English being the influence as opposed to Hindi
or Sanskrit - it might not be such a bad idea in the
minds of some of the people making some of the posts.
The question, however, is - if it is about identity is
it such a big factor after all. Apart from a few
people on the Net, is there a wave of indignation
happening on the streets of Assam towards one or the
other interpretations?
Rajib
--- Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> C'da,
>
> >NOT constitute an insult to the Assamese language
> and to the Assamese
> >identity? WHAT is the logic?
>
> That should cause indignation and people should tell
> the papers that the
> Newspapers have the responsibility to write such
> names in proper
> transliterated English - which must represent spoken
> Assamese as close as
> possible.
> It is the sanctity of the language that is important
> here. The question of
> Assamese losing their indentity because th
> AT/Sentinel goofed up is as
> far-fetched as saying there are no illegal B'deshis
> in Assam.
>
> The war of identity needs a different thread. Th
> question of Assamese is
> being Sankritzed or Anglicized also needs a
> different page.
>
> But if you try to buttress your arguments by
> bringing in identity, desi
> demokrasy, Sankritization, influence etc then the
> language is left elsewhere
> and it looks like there these other issues are
> affecting your thought
> process.:)
>
> I pose the same questions to you (as I did to Barua)
>
> Why? I will even answer that.
> 1) If Assamese ARE NOT losing their identity
> 2) If it was not Sankritized
> *Then will you accept "Sankaradeva" instead?*
>
> I hope, you and others would NOT on those grounds.
> It is extremely simple:
> **
> *IT should be "Xongordew" because THAT IS HOW
> ASSAMESE WANT it. And that is
> how we would like others to pronounce it as well. *
>
> And let me add: let us assume it was not Sanskrit or
> Hindi
> but it was English that was influencing Assamese.
> Would that make a
> difference (and you wouldn't really mind?)
>
> >One who brought identity to the discussion--and
> stands by it :-).
>
> And you did such a pretty good job of it that you
> had Barua convinced it was
> me and not you who brought it up. :)
>
> --Ram
>
>
>
> On 9/17/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > O'Ram:
> >
> >
> > WHY would not a Sanskritized ( or Hindified or
> whatever non-indigenous
> > form) name of the singular icon of
> Assameseness,flaunted by one of Assam's
> > flagship newspapers NOT constitute an insult to
> the Assamese language and to
> > the Assamese identity? WHAT is the logic? What is
> the rationale?
> >
> >
> > How would you react to an Assam newspaper writing
> Vimla Chaliha, or
> > Chanderkant Handique or Anandram Baruah ?
> >
> >
> > If you can explain that, credibly, I am willing to
> re-consider my views on
> > Sankaradeva, a name that no Assamese speaker
> speaks that way.
> >
> >
> > Yours truly,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > One who brought identity to the discussion--and
> stands by it :-).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 6:47 AM -0500 9/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> >
> > Barua,
> >
> >
> > >Tt is as simple as that.
> >
> > >Question of identity comes later.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now it seems you are getting the point. I was NOT
> the one who brought
> > "identity" into this discussion.
> >
> > Some netters did, so I wanted to know their
> reasoning behind that.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Ram
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/16/06,* Barua25* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ram:
> >
> > If your name is Ram, you want people to call you
> Ram, and not Rama or
> > Rhama.
> >
> > Tt is as simple as that.
> >
> > Question of identity comes later.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rajen Barua
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > *From:* Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > *To:* Barua25 < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > *Cc:* Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Dilip/Dil
> > Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; [email protected]
> >
> > *Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:26 PM
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Barua,
> >
> > >The way you are advocating for the Sanskrit
> spelling '>Sankaradeva'
> > against Assamese spelling 'Xongkordew', is >same
> as advocating for (say) the
> > spelling 'Pankaradeba' in >place of 'Xongordew'
> >
> >
> >
> > I advocated NO SUCH THING. You are once again
> putting words in my mouth.
> > Show me where I said that? And I am surprised you
> didn't catch th drift or
> > essence of my posts on the subject.
>
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