Folks, Amazing how quickly we can take umbrage at a young, well intentioned person's sense of frustation!
I personally think AssamNet needs new blood too. That means more set of faces, a wider set of discussions than "India baiting or ULFA baiting" and yes, even Momy's idea of setting up the student help website. I think that would need the stalwarts here to be patient a bit. Lord knows it is tough enough to survive C-da's barbs. Tougher still to give it back in good measure. I think in addition to pondering over the weighty issues of Assam, it might just be useful for the network as a whole to start simple stupid threads like Assamese jokes, antakshari and stuff like that. In addition to useful tools like what Momy has suggested. And that would need new blood for sure. I know I am not about to start a jokes thread myself. All that is required is for that new blood to survive. Even if it is precocious to begin with. Every Assamese outside Assam (or India) feels he is God's gift to mankind. I also frequent Silchar.com and I find its young, sometimes stupid but always vibrant discussions lively. I must admit I come back to read up on C-da's barbs though :-) Please give it some thought. Jugalda, what's your vision of where you want to take this site? Hopefully, Momy (and others to follow) would also wake up to the thought that if you have to sell an idea to people you cannot take offense at first go. Rajib --- mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --------------------------------- <But I understand your frustrations about students NOT being helped etc> That's A PATERNALISTIC (or)Maternalistic ATTITUDE from Momy. Whether she could be given a Maternal Status is indeterminate! Which Student going abroad will listen to her advice-.Q is -WHAT IS HER ADVICE WORTH? They might even brush her aside -"My mind is made up. Don't confuse me with facts". I asked her -the day this rising Sun peeped up the Horizon--"Post your smiling photo-in-your Sunday best-to be received well and considered fit to be dialogued with" She didn't even respond . Some great man said 'Absenmindedness deserves no repetition' Sorry if another star fell by the roadside! More will appear. And the world will go round and round. mm P.S. However-- 3 days back-I gave a printout of Momy's/Dr Jogen Kalita's postings on their -Dying -to helpthe poor ignorant Assamese children needing an exposure to the Bright West-to become fit citizens of the world--- to the Director of Omeo Kumar Das Institute of Social Change and Development-Guwahati5 Dr.Mrs. Indranee Dutta - E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] - website:www.okd.in- for possibly contacting their ID's- mm --------------------------------- From: "Ram Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chan Mahanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Assam] What a shame Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:58:32 -0500 Hi Momy, I think C'da put it very well. But I understand your frustrations about students NOT being helped etc. Many of us participating on this net have been students. And as students we too had to go through the same myraid of problems that students often face. But the fact that you are in the UK or US, tells many of us that you have the gumption and the wherewithal to come overseas. >Some of you are even so critical about the NRIs or the >government, so on .. the list is endless.... And what is your suggestion? We don't? >And the events organized in London, its a shame that not all >Assamese in UK are even aware of them..... That could happen in the US as well (or even Delhi or Mumbai). IMHO, event organization is a tough business, and usually a thankless one in the end. Yes, sometimes someone does get left out - but usually it is not out of intent. But, if you or others felt slighted, it would seem appropriate for you to join these select group of organizers and show them how to make things happen. >When I replied to Mr Jogen's mail (Student helpline) stating that I >am willing to help the aspiring students of Assam by building a >website so that we can all contribute our experiences (if nothing >else) through the web portal, none of you seem to further discuss >it or offer any kind of help from your end. This has been done before - suggestions for aspiring students. I remember reading in the AT, many years ago, articles on the subject. The second part, you missed is an important one. Many of us who came here many, many years ago, are now totally cluless about the new immigration rules, tests, or studies that could help aspiring students. Something like this has to be a student effort - because they know the situation much better than us old foggies. Young Assamese have several sites devoted just to talk about their issues - one I know is called Texamese. >Its a shame really and for those who criticize the politicians, just >know that you are the same kind....u could only speak but can't >initiate an action which is why there are no results!!!!! Really! How do you know we are the 'same kind' ? I will just leave it at that. >Discussing on big issues is easy but taking a very small >action becomes difficult, isn't it???? Of course it is. What is the small action you are proposing? >Help those who really need some help.....and put your words into >action to counter all your resentment. Noble thoughts, no doubt. And if you didn't come along and tell us about this, we would all have been lost souls. :) I am sorry that you think the best way for you to be heard is to quit the net. But I hope you will change your mind and take part in the discussions. As lousy as you may see the net, it is one of the few sounding boards many netters have. with the best --Ram On 10/12/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Momy: I was disappointed to read your note on the disappointments of your own. Allow me to share a little observation of mine, with the hope that you will take a moment of your precious time to ponder: "Expectations is the mother of all disappointments!" Is it catchy or what? Remember you heard it here first :-). The point is that you had expectations of assamnetters; does not matter if they are realistic, meaningful, useful, or otherwise. And since those were not met, you are leaving the forum, in a huff, waving your own virtues, imagined or real, for others to see and go --Wow! What a young lady of action she is! But I understand. Most do. We have seen them all here. Good news however is that you are young, and hopefully still open to learning new tricks unlike some old us old dogs. And it is NOT a beauty contest here -- to prove what a hot-s--t one is or not :-). New tricks? Indeed. You have shown how naive you are about some of your assumptions, beliefs and expectations, from the few notes you posted here. I won't go into details now, but if you would like for me to, I will be pleased to take them up for discussion at a later time. But that is nothing new. You are not alone in your naivete. We have all been there. Again good news is that we can shed them. How? Yes, by talking. By debating, discussing and deliberating and by paying attention. You may ask: But isn't that a waste of time? Aren't you guys just blowing air, accomplishing NOTHING? Well, it would be, IF that is ALL we do. See Momy, discussing and debating the issues we do, is NOT mutually exclusive of doing something concrete. That is what you fail to recognize. Again, no harm done. You have a lot of time to learn. Many netters do many things--for their own betterment and for others' too. Not all talk of their actions or contributions. And besides, there is ALWAYS a whole lot more to the persona of these people than what their posts in assamnet may indicate. It will do you good to be aware of that. What is important to recognize however, is that those who know better, or are expected to know better--people like yourselves, cannot and must not remain smug in your own righteousness, your self-image of a person of action, like you assert. For if you do, you will be NO DIFFERENT from those who you perceive, albeit on scant and superficial evidence of assamnet posts, to be mere hot-air blowers, or having little to contribute towards what YOU consider meaningful. What is meaningful can come in many, many forms. Another thing is that, we know, often a new member would leave in a huff, because netters' criticisms/comments hurt their sense of what they hold dear: Often myths associated with their realities or their beliefs. And being unable or unwilling to articulate a defense of their own values and views, they would cite others' 'egos' or pro-this or anti-that or full-of-hot-air-ness. This is the quintessential "Urohi-gosor-wrtw-onyo-korbat" syndrome. There is only one cure for it: SPEAK UP, defend what you believe. You will be surprised, that you CAN educate others. And we will all be the better for it. Gave you an earful, didn't I :-)? Take care, and whether you return to assamnet or not, all the best to you and yours. cm At 11:58 AM +0100 10/12/06, Momy Saikia wrote: Hi All, I have observed that all of you registered on this site are very pro active in picking up national and international topics and carrying on a wide discussion pertaining to them. Some of you are even so critical about the NRIs or the government, so on .. the list is endless.... And the events organized in London, its a shame that not all Assamese in UK are even aware of them.....And Mrs Rini Kakati , whom I sent a mail introducing myself replies to me saying she is very busy and can't complete a mail to someone who is seeking acquaintance with people from home... Very disappointing that the same lady has time to post her "opinions" on the site. Mere ignorance is what I recieved from a lady who is apparantly "holding up the flag of Assam in UK".....Look outside the "site", we don't even know you that well..... When I replied to Mr Jogen's mail (Student helpline) stating that I am willing to help the aspiring students of Assam by building a website so that we can all contribute our experiences (if nothing else) through the web portal, none of you seem to further discuss it or offer any kind of help from your end. Discussing on big issues is easy but taking a very small action becomes difficult, isn't it???? Its a shame really and for those who criticize the politicians, just know that you are the same kind....u could only speak but can't initiate an action which is why there are no results!!!!! Assamese in London are investing time and money on stars like Zubin Garg, who is already popular and well set on his career. He doesn't need anymore propaganda through Zee Tv or other channels as Bharat ki janta has already acknowledged his talents. Help those who really need some help.....and put your words into action to counter all your resentment. Momy NB: I believe in actions over discussions. No discussion is as great or effective as a small action. So i am withdrawing from this forum. For the great minds who is investing their precious time and ideas in keeping "only this site alive"...All the best.........For those who have atleast tried acting on their words and not just propaganding their thoughts through the site, Good going guys and keep up the spirit and try to influence people from the other category!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Download the new Windows Live Toolbar, including Desktop search! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >_______________________________________________ >assam mailing list >[email protected] >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > [email protected] > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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