Dear Manoj
Your views are wrong --simplistic--Delhi's ,RAW's views.
Assam is landlocked-so is Switzerland and many others.
Boro ,Tiwa,Naga,Khasi,Garo, Bongs,Miyas , --not problems-they are the solutions--they all want the solution --which only Sovereign Free Assam can offeer.No other way!
Rethink all over. We do not have to get Inspirations from the few Naga or Boros.Nogaar Saangtoleii Baat! ISI Bhoot haunts you too? Are they that scary?
MM
From: "Manoj Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chan Mahanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ASSAMNET <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Assam] See what the revolutionaries are upto!
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:11:15 +0530
Dear C'da
ULFA has started as an offshoot of Assam agitation. They were the most firebrand and patriotic section of the AASU agitation. Initially they did certain things like punishing drunkards, eve teasers, corrupt officials in public to gain public acceptance and send in a message that they are the ones who will bring in the governance and cleanse the system. ULFA's sovereign Assam, the boundaries are yet to be defined and I doubt if they have any clue.
Bodoland, Mishing autonomous, Karbi, Dewri, Tiwa autonomous areas are out. So are the tea gardens. Then the overlapping areas with Nagalim. So the sovereign Assam is a landlocked entity. It can have an exit through Bangladesh through the great river.
Why my reasoning? Well our brothers had to take haven in bangladesh due to various reasons. Bhutan, Myanmar, China etc. were too difficult and Bangladesh offered them a safe passage with a calculated design to hijack the steam out of the original anti foreigner campaign of ULFA. They become "hol mash in kholoha". The leaders family, money, lives all are in the hands of DGFI and ISI. When did you hear from them about the foreigner issue? Now they are a mere ISI agent, trying to destabilise the region and create a mischief. Public support has waned from the day ULFA forgot about the foreigners.
Assam has been systemtically subjugated by the British and then the Centre to snuff out the proudness and aggressiveness of the people. We were the only people subjected to opium alongwith the Chinese. After independence investments per capita were the lowest from the planning commission. Add that to the influx of immigrants both legal and illegal. The denominator got buldged further. The resources like oil, coal, water were taken in central list
and health, education, law and order were pushed to state list. State was made to beg before centre despite its huge resources.
Now if ULFA can bargain and sit down, it should look for an amiable solution like the BLT. Get maximum from the centre. Take own flag, anthem, ask to give resources to state list. Ask for a consolidatef fund equivaent to the NPV of the resources taken out of the state in last 60 years. Make all the "khilonjiya basindas" tribal under VIth schedule. Such a provision is available for residents of Kinnaur in HP. In that case the current constitution of India will provide the security to our people, whatever is retrievable. Ask for power to negotiate and do border trade. make Assam the hub for trade with the ASEAN and China.
Everyone knows that with 1000 cadre ULFA cannot fight the Indian Army. It was chased out by the negligible Bhutanese Army. Killing few innocent unarmed fellws here and there will only complicate the issue and bring hardships for the poor Assamese villagers. "Kerketuai tamul khai, neulok bandhi kilai".
We missed the first industrial revolution, green revolution, IT revolution. Now we are about the miss the bus again in the resurgent India. We have been endowed. But like "horina-r mangkshoi boiri" - it has become a curse.
In our argumets none will win. But there is definitely a loser and she is "ai oxom"
Rgds
MKD
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Manoj:I am NOT at all involved in these things for PERSONAL reasons. Ifwe cannot discuss it in public, then it is not worth discussing at all. If we cannot discuss the public interest in PUBLIC, then something has to be WRONG with what we cannot air in public. In that neither you, nor I ought to indulge in.c-daAt 9:45 PM +0530 1/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:Dear C'da
The issue is very sensitive to discuss in public domain. I'll explain my belief in a private mail.
Rgds
Manoj
On 1/8/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Manoj:At 8:17 AM +0530 1/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:
Hello C'da
The reasoning that I gave is the fact, everybody knows that, including you. History will tell who is correct and that day is not very far in time!
Cheers!!
*** You did not address the questions I asked abut the reasoning you gave. To await history's verdict will be like GWB banking on history to prove hisrighteousness about Iraq.If the Sentinel theory you passed on as the gospel truth had any validity, then you should be able to explain how it addresses the questions I raised. Why don't you give it a try explaining instead of banking on history to do it for you ?Take care :-).c-da
On 1/8/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can you tell us how Osama vs US compares with ULFA vs India?
Your inferential skills need a lot of work.
At 10:28 PM +0000 1/7/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
telling a lie one hundred times will NOT make it the truth. Which planet are you in?
***ULFA or suspected ULFA slaughter by Indian army goons is a more noble pursuit or at least an efficacious one.
where does Indian army come in the slaughter by ULFA ?
Alos as a US citizen are you saying USA is negotiating with Osama Bin Laden?
Which universe are you in?
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 6:54 PM +0000 1/7/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
Do you believe in negotiating with terrorists --US doesn't.
** Really? What planet have you been in Umesh?
ULFA has proved itself to be terrorists by killing innocents again. Hasn't it? Why equate killing of laborers by ULFa to killing of ULFA by Indian army?
** OK, I will abandon my sense of reasoning for a moment and go along with your view that ULFA or suspected ULFA slaughter by Indian army goons is a more noble pursuit or at least an efficacious one.
If so, it should have proven beneficial and ended the carnage by now. It has been a quarter century now , hasn't it? But has it?
If not, what seems to be the problem? And how do you, a Harvard trained intellectual licensed to lecture the world, plan to bring it to an end? I spoke to someone in Assam an hour back and I hear the killing goes on. I asked how come the army, which is all over the place, can't stop it? I was told that the army cannot be everywhere, that they cannot stop what goes on in the backwoods of Assam.
Not that I did not know the answer. I was just curious about how the prevailing
wisdom that Manoj shared earlier has infected the reasoning ability of otherwise
able people.
If YOU did not know the answer earlier ( can't hold it against you -- you too being a victim of the desi-mindset affliction); NOW that you know, what would you propose to these Hindi speaking victims?
Or to those who will be killed either as ULFAs or SUSPECTED ULFAs ?
STAY THE COURSE?
And call B'deshis PIGS, the Assamese SAVAGES and go offer some Pujas to the gods to make ULFA disappear?
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The motive of ULFA killings is to create a vacuum so that the Bangladeshis can >occupy the professions now being monopolised by the Biharis etc. This is plain >and simple and nobody is saying it in as many words.Let us examine this bit of wisdom, which seems to have its origins in the hallowed editorial chambers of the Sentinel:
*** First off, regardless of MOTIVES, the killings are horrible
tragedies, that none of us can or should condone, support,
promote or abet; directly or indirectly, overtly or tacitly.
*** If indeed killing of Hindi-speaking laborers/traders/political
leaders ( they are NOT all laborers, if newspaper reports are to be
believed) is to create jobs for illegal B'deshi immigrants, like these
'analysts' tell us ; should it not raise a red-flag in the minds
of Assam's protectors and 'mai-baap' in Delhi?
*** Has Delhi NOT heard, from the late 1970s , about Assam's discontent
with unabated B'deshi migration to the state and to the region, which
actually triggered the ULFA movement, even though it is rooted in
much more?
*** If that was not enough, why have Assam's protectors NOT done
anything about it, even at this late date, even after brilliant
intellects who have finally seen through the ULFA ploy of turning
Assam over to B'desh, point it out in The Sentinel, The Statesman,
The Telegraph ,The ToI? Never mind the plaintive outpourings of
assamnetters and their NRI sympathizers and admirers.
Is India NOT worried about losing Assam's wealth to the hordes of
the lungi menace and B'Desh? After-all non-Assamese Indians own
most of Assam , don't they? Don't India's strategic planners and
steel-trap minded military generals see this huge risk to India's
'national security'?
Are they blind, are they stupid, are they THAT inept? Are they SOOO
impotent? Are they sooo clueless that they cannot connect these
NOT-subtle dots, but glaring beacons?
Well? What gives?
Perhaps they indeed are blind, stupid, inept ,clueless and abjectly impotent to do anything about it. Heavens know we see daily examples of that all over the sub-continent, don't we? It is entirely possible that these morons who supposedly govern India and 'protect' ( heh-heh!) Assam are worse than Keystone Cops.
*** If so, WHY can't our brilliant netters see thru that when they wail
on the internet like a bunch of cry-babies or go about parroting
simple-minded anal-yses by a clueless and careless media ? What is
their excuse? Are they too clones of their nincompoop keepers and
saviors?
The truth, unfortunately, is a whole lot more complicated.
BUT, even if it were not; EVEN if parroting of these simple-minded anal-yses really are what it is all about; would it not make sense for those who are dismayed by these developments to RAISE their voices to end the carnage? Carnage not merely of Hindi speakers, but of ULFA who are Oxomiya youth - our own; of Indian soldiers ( they too are human, aren't they?) and innocent bystanders -- regardless of the labels we place so conveniently to rob them of their humanity?
I like to think, that all these fine people whose outrage erupts only when such bloodshed makes the headlines, are not asleep the rest of the time.
So WHY do they AID and ABET this quarter century old carnage, albeit indirectly, by remaining silent or in fact opposing a negotiated political settlement between the Indian Govt. and ULFA ? Why don't they urge their keepers and saviors to end it, once and for all?
I hope our friends will take a moment to reflect on that. I like to think they are more than able to.
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