Ram:

With that in mind, they will even talk to the devil (if required) :)

*** Perhaps these opportunists, therefore should be banished, failing which, bombed out of existence, since they are working against the sacred interests of the Indian state?

Or is there a fallacy here in your argument?



<What these traders are doing is essentially begging the ulfa is NOT TO KILL them or their business.

*** OK. Is that bad? Cowardly? Unlike the brave stand of the unaffected and the secure, tacitly supporting GoI's stonewalling if not overtly?



> The brave ulfa will now decide what to do about their fates - after all they are the ones that hold the bombs.
The traders will really settly for much less.


*** Like what ? And where is the might of the Indian forces , if ULFA is the one holding the cards on the traders' safety?

If ULFA is the one that will continue to decide who will be spared and who will be bombed out of existence, and the state cannot defend them, then is it not disingenuous to shed tears over their killing, while supporting a status quo. Or are we under the delusion that somehow lecturing or taunting or begging from afar for ULFA to disappear is a sane approach for ending the conflict?


 >The traders will really settly for much less.

As for talks, it now seems clear that the ulfa is getting really desparate for talks.


*** So GoI ought  NOT to give in?

I don't know Ram. Seems like a rather unusual stance if you asked me. If I were to believe that the ULFA is in the ropes, desperate for a respite, then if were in GOIs shoes, I would seize the opportunity, sit down for talks and try to get away with giving up as little as I could, if that would END the conflict and stop the bloodshed.

But if I didn't want to give anything up at all, then I would be happy to shed crocodile tears and let the poor b*****s get blown to smithereens. What would I have to lose, as long as I can hold on to the real-estate?


It should keep doing what it is best at doing - you know kill, steal, rob and cause mayhem. Rest assured, it will still have its >cotrie of die-hard supporters :)

*** I am at a loss here about your REASONING Ram: ULFA is desperate, so GOI should not negotiate, and let ULFA continue to rob and kill with the support of that despicable coterie of its followers.

What is missing here :-)?

c-da





At 7:38 AM -0600 5/29/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
Welcome back C'da. Was starting to wonder where you were? But then with this beautiful weather, the 3-day-weekend and the fresh Ozark mountain air, I guess, you were relaxing :)

>Are these traders, who are directly AFFECTED by the escalating violence, out of >their little minds;

What do you propose they do? The big interests these traders have are (a) their bidness (b) their gahoks (or the safety of their customers).
With that in mind, they will even talk to the devil (if required) :)

What these traders are doing is essentially begging the ulfa is NOT TO KILL them or their business. The brave ulfa will now decide what to do about their fates - after all they are the ones that hold the bombs.
The traders will really settly for much less.

As for talks, it now seems clear that the ulfa is getting really desparate for talks. Why does it want to TALK to India when it wants to separate and seek its independence? It should keep doing what it is best at doing - you know kill, steal, rob and cause mayhem. Rest assured, it will still have its cotrie of die-hard supporters :)

--Ram


On 5/29/07, Chan Mahanta <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have one question to our highly trained and intelligent friends who have offered 'solutions' for the problem ( or 'mohamari' or 'hemorrohoids' or whatever other irritant or dread they would like to present it as):


Are these traders, who are directly AFFECTED by the escalating violence, out of their little minds; are they anti-national, are they fools being manipulated by the ilk of
        MR Goswami, PCH, PCPIA , MASS ?


Or are they the SENSIBLE ones exercising their 'KANDO-GYAN' ( common sense) in seeking a resolution from the POWERS that hold the KEY to a solution, instead of shedding crocodile tears like so many of our highly intelligent friends here, who are
        never affected by what is happening?


This is one of life's great mysteries, or is it :-)?


cm




























At 12:09 PM +0100 5/29/07, Bartta Bistar wrote:

Assam traders call for immediate talks with ULFA

<http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200705281967.htm>http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200705281967.htm

Guwahati, May. 28 (PTI): The Coordination Committee of different trade associations in Assam today demanded the state government convene immediate "unconditional" talks with the banned ULFA.

The association, which organised a protest today against the recent bomb blast in the state, said the government should organised talks within a week or it would intesify its stir.

"Everybody, including the ULFA wants talks, but by neglecting the issue the government is letting the situation out of hand and paving the way for violence," a member of the umbrella body of 30 trade associations, Vijay Gupta, told PTI here.

"The Assam Government is helpless and the Centre is skirting the issue (of talks) and hence the problem," Gupta said.

"If the government does not initiate the talks process immediately, we will intensify the agitation and submit memoranda to the President, Prime Minister and Union Home Minister", he said.

Normal life was crippled in response to the 24-hr Kamrup district bandh, called to protest the killing of seven people in the blasts on Saturday, as the committee members staged a sit-in at the Mahatma Gandhi road.

Members of the BJP, AGP, NCP, AASU and Purvatto Hindustani Sammelan joined the protest and demanded stern action against those involved in the killing of innocent people.

Meanwhile, the AASU today observed "Black Day" in Jorhat, the home district of Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi, as part of state-wide protests.





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