Hi C'da: Please excuse my interruption.
 
>You and others from the ranks of the GOOD folks have vehemently opposed 
>'talks'.
 
That is wrong. A "real" peace talk is way overdue - for the sake of the 
ordinary citizens of Assam. IMO, nobody should or have opposed that.  
 
But it should be from a sincere heart that has worries for the Assamese - for 
Assam's development - for the safety of the lives of the ordinary Assamese - 
and not put some pre-conditions beforehand so it will look like ready to have 
the talk PROVIDED, "you agree to do what I want you to do". Then bring up the 
topic - see the possibilities...
 
Pretension will only bring more miseries to the people of Assam - and who would 
(rather should) care for that more? The Assamese - be it ULFA or SULFA or 
non-ULFA or non-SULFA - just Assamese, isn't it?
 
And I think these bomblasts are not ALL done by the ULFA, but outside (or 
inside) sources are taking advantage of the situation - just to create 
animosity amongst all groups including the government. So shouldn't ULFA walk 
thier talk of taking care of the people of Assam and put more emphasis on 
coming to the mainstream thru talks or whatever and "save" Assam and the 
Assamese from this vulnerable situation?? 
 
If we (all people, that is, ULFA, SULFA, NON-ULFA?SULFA, Government bodies - 
all) LEAVE political agendas/spin/cheap fame/'bhem' and motives like making 
EASY MONEY, hope to become the "Roja" above the innocent civilians of Assam, 
then won't we want just that - PEACE and SAFETY for the people of Assam first?
 
 
 
 
“In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble 
like a blade of grass”

- Lakshmana
 
 


Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:32:08 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] Expolision Rocks Guwahati 
Again ...



At 8:22 AM -0600 6/24/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
C'da,
 
>Eketa kothake pegheniai thaaki ekw laabh nai, buisa
 
You are right.
In fact, lets pick this up only when there is a "fake encounter" and the the 
army has killed an innocent ulfa cadre! :)
 
--Ram


**** You are evading the point again Ram


It is not about these incidences that will continue to  occur. The bad guys 
will keep doing it.  And more bad guys won't join you to shed those tears of 
sympathy or join the chorus of abuse.

Like you explained yourself, no-one can prevent these, not even the might of 
the Indian Army.

So WHAT would the GOOD folks do? What SHOULD they do?

You and others from the ranks of the GOOD folks have vehemently opposed 'talks'.

You have cried out for surrender of the BAD guys.

You all have put out incisive arguments and insights why Assam must remain 
India's dependency.

But none of them are working.

So what is the answer?


c-da








 
On 6/24/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ram:
 
 
 


>I wonder how PCG, PCPIA and HR groups and all those famous people will spin 
>this? They all come >up front & center with righteous indignation, even if one 
>single gun-weilding ulfa cadre is killed.
 
 
 
*** Last things first: Let us put an end to the debate here. You know, like so 
many others in this forum do, that these are BAD folks!  There is no need to 
argue about what you know to be the unimpeachable truth. Eketa kothake 
pegheniai thaaki ekw laabh nai, buisa  ( repeating oneself like a broken record 
does not accomplish anything).
 
 
 
>>They will Kill - even small babies if necessary,  if the GOI won't listen and 
>>sit with them for talks - is >>that correct?
 
 
*** Same story again.
 
 
There is no point in attempting to make the bad folks to admit they are BAD or 
attempt to have them do the right things! They won't  do that.  It will be 
mindless to expect to make silk purses out of sows' ears.
 
That leaves the GOOD folks; like yourself, other assamnetters who share your 
values, GoI and GoA to lead the way.
 
Now then, what would the GOOD folks do, because the BAD ones couldn't be 
counted on to the right things?
 
Keep on doing the same thing,  knowing that the BAD guys will keep doing the 
same thing too?
 
What will you do when your tear-ducts run dry, with nothing left to shed in 
lieu of a solution?
 
Then what?
 
 
c-da :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
At 7:22 PM -0600 6/23/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
C'da,

 
>Your expression of outrage surely shames the silent ones.
 
Yeah, right! :) 
>Somebody has to hold the torch and lead the way. You are doing >your share
 
No one need to lead the way - the ULFA's attrocities are blazing thru fine for 
all the see.
 
(BTW: the death tolls gone up - update: Six people, including a 
one-and-half-year-old baby, were killed and 20 others injured ).
 
>India can hang in there for ever. So what if  many more lives are >lost? They 
>are cheap. And the righteous like yourselves will >always be there to salve 
>the loss with  streaming e-tears on the >internet.
 
So, these deaths and killings are the responsibility of India - because 
blood-thirsty ULFA wants to force their dikat on the rest of the population?
 
They will Kill - even small babies if necessary,  if the GOI won't listen and 
sit with them for talks - is that correct?
Its good going.
I wonder how PCG, PCPIA and HR groups and all those famous people will spin 
this? They all come up front & center with righteous indignation, even if one 
single gun-weilding ulfa cadre is killed.

--Ram
 
 
On 6/23/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ram,
 
Your expression of outrage surely shames the silent ones. Somebody has to hold 
the torch and lead the way. You are doing your share.

 
 
Yes indeed. You are also right about demanding to know 'Talks on what?'.  You 
are not alone, not in this net, not in the  company of the fearless  watchdogs 
of democracy in Assam or India.
 
Anyone with half a working brain ought to know, it is far better to keep 
trying. Wasn't it the fearless Sir Robert the Bruce who, while hiding in the 
cave got the epiphany from the spider who kept falling off its net, but finally 
succeeded in setting it up, that he realized that he had keep trying until he 
succeeded?
 
Take heart Ram. India can hang in there for ever. So what if  many more lives 
are lost? They are cheap. And the righteous like yourselves will always be 
there to salve the loss with  streaming e-tears on the internet.
 
 
Acerbically as always.
 
c-da :-).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
At 8:15 AM -0600 6/23/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
Thanks Babul, and here are some more details.



 
The ULFA's bravery knows no bounds. This time again, they have managed to kill 
two "very dangerous" children and two dangerous pedestrians.
 
And yet, some of us expect that the GOI hold talks with these murderers? Talks 
on what? If NOT, the ULFA will kill more innocent people & children?

 
These sympathizers ought to gives us some really good reasons why killing 
children or these pedestrians is somehow justified?
 
--Ram
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Four killed, 20 injured in bomb explosion in Guwahati
November 05, 2006
Press Trust Of India

Guwahati, June 23, 2007
First Published: 11:13 IST(23/6/2007)
Last Updated: 11:38 IST(23/6/2007)
Hours before the start of the Asian Athletics Grand Prix in Guwahati, the 
proscribed ULFA on Saturday exploded a bomb infront of a mosque situated near a 
commercial area in Guwahati killing at least four and injuring 20 others.
The bomb hidden in a cycle, which was parked in front of the mosque adjacent to 
the daily vegetable market in Machkhowa area of the city, exploded at around 
7.30 am killing four, City Additional Superintendent of Police Rajen Singh told 
PTI.
The cycle and some vehicles parked nearby were damaged, he said.
Among the dead were two children, who were at the vegetable market at the time 
of explosion.
The injured were admitted to the nearby Marwari hospital, Singh said.
The explosion comes nine hours before the start of the the Asian Athletics 
Grand Prix, which would witness the presence of over 200 top athletes from 20 
countries, at the Indira Gandhi Athletics Stadium here.
Security has been beefed up in the Assamese capital.
 
On 6/23/07, bg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.assamtimes.org/index.php?news=72
Expolision Rocks Guwahati Again: 4 killed 20 injured

Guwahati: A powerful bomb that explodes in the city on Saturday morning leaves 
four people dead besides more than twenty injured.
he explosion took place at Machkhowa and that too in front of a mosque at a 
daily vegetable market at around 7-30 am. All those  killed in the explosion 
are pedestrians.
Immediately after the explosion, top ranked police and civil administration 
officials arrived in the spot and investigation is going on.
The injured were admitted to the nearby hospital.
No one has so far been rounded up in the city. Details are awaited.--Babul 
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