The intial "gripe" was the method of garnering votes, but as expected, the
argument invariably goes to whether successive governments have brought
change.

If we look at the first part about busing voters to the booth (basically
influencing or buying votes), that kind of thing happens everywhere. It is
more sophisticated in the US. In the past presidential election, there were
many churches that played a vital role in basically influencing their flocks
to vote the "Christian way".
But in the end - the voter decides both in India as well as the US.

>*** Indian voting, by and large is a matter of festivities, of a holiday
in the town for the rural voters, who
rarely go vote on ISSUES, but do so to elect the candidates of their CASTE,
or on the promises that are made, >almost always never kept.  And the
intelligentsia hardly go vote, since they know it is a joke.

Right!. And who is going to educate them in the art of voting on issues.
There are several choices, offhand. Install a dictator (or a bunch of
people with firepower). They can dictate how people ought to vote.
Or, we could send over a couple of friends from around here. They could
teach those caste-ridden Indians to replace caste with Christian (moral)
values. :) :)

Lastly, C'da, the intelligentsia do vote. Or else, how do you account for
changes in Govt?

*>*** So has CHANGE happened? That is the real test here, isn't it ?*

Changes would happen faster, if there wern't a some groups who seem more
interested in tearing down whatever foundations of democracy that exist
right now (for their own personal/political agenda) than building a stronger
India.

--Ram


On 7/24/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 The issue here is not MY disdain, but the failure of India's
intelligentsia and its representatives abroad, whose biggest achievement is
holding up the facade of 'Indian democracy' to the world, while its
substance is little more than an Indian myth.




>The manner in which Indian voters have voted out incumbents and brought
in new governments >several times, with the hope that things will change -




*** So has CHANGE happened? That is the real test here, isn't it ?


*** Indian voting, by and large is a matter of festivities, of a holiday
in the town for the rural voters, who
rarely go vote on ISSUES, but do so to elect the candidates of their
CASTE, or on the promises that are made, almost always never kept.  And the
intelligentsia hardly go vote, since they know it is a joke.
































At 7:20 AM -0700 7/24/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:

It is a pity that you treat the Indian voters with such disdain. The
manner in which Indian voters have voted out incumbents and brought in new
governments several times, with the hope that things will change - clearly
shows money does not always buy votes in India.



As I remember, ballot papers in India do not carry voter identification
and polling booths provide privacy. So, even after getting a bus ride from a
given candidate, what is there to prevent the voter from voting for any
candidate he wants to, once he is inside the booth? I realize there is group
or block voting but that is another issue, not because they ride in the same
bus.



Dilip

*Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:


>being yolked together in jam-packed buses and taken to election booths
for casting their votes by >various political parties of democratic India.




*** For those who have missed it, or at least pretend that they missed it,
it is not just B'Deshis that are herded to voting booths in* democratic
India.* That is the main method , all over India, even for the authentic
citizens.  And those who have the most resources to treat the revelers and
get to the voting booths, win.





At 2:08 PM +0530 7/24/07, Assam.org <http://assam.org/> Webmaster wrote:

On 7/23/07,* Satyen Brahma* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



*                  Flushing  out  Bangladeshis:  in 'Election Style'*





*        * During elections, we find illegal Bangladeshi migrants being
yolked together in jam-packed buses and taken to election booths for casting
their votes by various political parties of democratic India. There are
certain dalals (brokers) who carry out the process on being paid by the
contesting candidates. There is no reason why such illegal migrants can't be
thrown out of Assam by adopting such steps. I urge the Indian Army to launch
such an operation to weed out Bangladeshis from Assam.




                ----Satyen Brahma,


                     Lokhora,


                        Guwahati






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