Dilip Thanks--that is what the English say-"Give him the long rope. He can(with 
the rope) either come out of the well or hang himself".Everybody should be 
given the Long Rope!
Let every social group create the very best with Talent ,Science,Technology  
going begging and piling up every passing minute-yet nobody allowed to do one 
bit--because some Babu in Delhi or Dispur is not daring to sign papers because 
his brilliant boss like Pranab Mukheji or Bijoy Krishna Handique has not winked 
- who in turn are waiting for MMS to wink--who in turn is waiting for Madam to 
wink-- who in turn is waiting for the future boss to wink-----------.In between 
little blips like policemen(NSA) getting stomach problem checked in Houston!.
That's why I said "Without Oxomiya Toka-you could as well be dead"
M'da


Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:30:16 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] 
[WaterWatch] Urgent: PR on No irrigation benefits after spending 100 000 crores 
over twelve year
Mukulda,
I have one suggestion.
Let the citizens give them the proposals and suggestions. They have to address 
them. Use RTI. The process will keep them busy and they may understand that 
they have something to produce as result.
If they do not produce anything or if they produce something ridiculous, let's 
expose them in the media.
Dilipmc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Serious discussions are needed-- How Else to make do- with what annual surface 
water can be had-and distributedequitably to all LIFE living and farming in 
that particular watershed.Civil Engineering  should be all about  
that.NGO's/Panchayati Raj should be all about that.GIS/AgroTechnics/Dry-area 
farming techniques/Drought-Resistance-hybrids/GMcrops with such desireable 
Traits---is all about that.Must we leave it all to Delhi -based DA and TA 
collectors whose only handbook are airlines timetables?Get rid of these 
parasites-and start all over again.MM


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:57:21 
+0530Subject: Re: [WaterWatch] Urgent: PR on No irrigation benefits after 
spending 100 000 crores over twelve years



Thanks, Sreekumar, my responses to your respective questions given below in the 
same sequence:
 
1. There is some project specific information, where due to silting of dams and 
canals, the area irrigated by existing canals has been reducing. More 
importantly, there is state specific information. We have given graphs for six 
major states: AP, TN, Rajasthan, MP (including Chhattisgrh), J&K and Karnataka. 
We are collecting infomation for other states. 
 
2. The data in our PR shows that inspite of spending so much money, net areas 
irrigated by canals has been reducing. Indeed, we were, in stead to spend money 
in proper up keep, repair and maintenance of existing infrastructure and also 
in trying to reduce siltation, the benefit per investment would be much larger 
and without the additional social and env impacts. But I cannot off hand 
remember any study on those lines. 
 
3. The figure of 17000 crores is from a World Bank study in 2005. It does not 
give details. The total amount we have spent on big irrigation projects after 
independence is above Rs 200 000 crores. So Rs 17000 would be 8.5% of it. 
Considering about 17.8 m ha net canal irrigated areas at peak, it would mean 
about Rs 10 000/- per ha, which also includes cost of maintaining the dam 
infrastructure. It seems to be a reasonable figure, but there could be 
variation between different scales of systems/ states. 
 
Hope this gives some indicative answers to your question.
 
Himanshu 
On 10/6/07, Sreekumar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 





HimanshuThis is indeed a revelation! Good that you have raised an important 
point. Few doubts/clarifications please.1. The area irrigated by existing 
canals must have been reducing, and this reduction would be more than the 
capacity added by new canals. Is there any info on reduction of irrigated area 
by existing canals? 2. Is it economical to put in money to existing canals to 
increase irrigation? (In power sector, renovation & modernisation is carried 
out on old power plants to improve efficiency, after a cost benefit assesment). 
Have any studies been done for canals? 3. You mention that 17,000 Cr should be 
spent on O&M, but only about 1700 Cr is actually being spent. Is 17,000 Cr an 
Ok figure for O&M? What % of the capital cost would that work out to be?Regards 
sreekumarprayas energy groupHimanshu Thakkar wrote:


Dear All,
 
I am copying below the main text of the Press Release we are issuing today, 
without the figures. The PDF file of the PR is also available on our website 
at: 
http://www.sandrp.in/irrigation/100000_crores_spent_no_irrigation_benefits_SANDRP_PR_Oct2007.pdf
 
The word file of the PR (size: 1040 KB) can also be sent on request. 
 
We hope you will find this useful. We would be happy to get any questions, 
comments you may have on this. 
 
Thanking you,
 
With best wishes,
Himanshu Thakkar
-- Himanshu ThakkarSouth Asia Network on Dams, Rivers & PeopleDelhi, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@gmail.comwww.sandrp.in __._,_.___ 
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