At 9:57 PM -0500 10/14/07, kamal deka wrote:
Rubi Bhuyan and her/his acolytes may be excused for having the intellect of bellicose bumpkin,but what about those kharkhowas,both native and overseas with king-size brain,who have failed to understand as to why sovereignty is not the panacea of all ills of Assam.


**** WHO has suggested  sovereignty to be the panacea  ?


Sovereignty is a tool. It is NOT the end, It is actually the BEGINNING. The real hard work comes after that. But without it Assam cannot make the changes it needs to do, to begin to move forward.


How can I say that?


Take a look at your OWN observations about what has been happening to Assam, before and since ULFA's emergence. Why does nothing happen there, in spite of that vaulted universal adult franchise?

Don't you want to know? What seems to be the problem?



That's why we have to set our  house in order first


**** Indeed so. How do you suggest it be done? By abolishing desi-demokrasy and putting in its place a benevolent or even malevolent dictator? Or thru real demokrasy, unlike the desi kind? or by praying to Gakhir Khowa Ganesh Goxain?



If you cannot walk straight on a tarred road,why do you ask for a pair of special Nike shoes to walk up >the hill ?


**** Not only do I not not know anything about tarred roads, but I walked barefoot to school, uphill both ways.









Will Assam be led to an Utopian state only if Delhi stop being the barrier ? I have already explained that there are plenty of areas in which the Center simply can't and does not interfere with the state.The developmental pace in those areas can be matched with that of the snail' s.That's why we have to set our house in order first before screaming for sovereignty.It simply does not make sense. If you cannot walk straight on a tarred road,why do you ask for a pair of special Nike shoes to walk up the hill ?

KJD


On 10/14/07, Chan Mahanta <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Birds of a feather no doubt :-).


 >The call to hold a plebiscite is unwarranted.


**** Why?




>We have a Government out there in Assam,elected by the universal adult franchise inspite of the fact >that the ULFA gave a clarion call to boycott the election.




**** And that means what?


What is that adult franchise sired govt . doing for Assam's development? Shouldn't we ask that first, instead of asking that of Ruby who does not have power, does not have resources, and doers not control the population with military force?


Are we unable to muster even  that bit of common sense?












At 7:34 PM -0500 10/14/07, kamal deka wrote:

Umesh,you have raised the most poignant and relevant question.



Despite a miserable track records of successive Govt.of Assam in day-to-day administration or in law-and-order or civic affairs----subjects in which the Center just can't and does not poke its nose---ULFA is issuing the call for sovereignty.Sovereignty for what ? For running personal fiefdoms ?


The call to hold a plebiscite is unwarranted.We have a Government out there in Assam,elected by the universal adult franchise inspite of the fact that the ULFA gave a clarion call to boycott the election.



KJD


On 10/14/07, umesh sharma <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

Mr Ruby,

What is your plan for Assam's development - since you say you want Assam's development?

Umesh



ulfa_ 1979April7 <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

Hon'able netter,



We felt it necessary to add our comment to the above discussion thread between Ram Sarangapani and Chandan Mahanta. Yes indeed, the ULFA is still totally committed, as before, to honour the verdict of a plebiscite on the restoration of the Sovereignty of Asom held under the auspices of the United Nations. The ULFA certainly made this declaration before anybody else. Bringing this up in this discussion forum by yourselves is very commendable. But we would like to make it clear here that we do not want any migrant from India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Myanmar etcetera since 1947 to take part in this

 plebiscite  in defining the future direction of Asom.

Ram Sarangapani, you are a regular contributor in the AssamNet forum. Your explicit expression of support to stand by
Assam (Asom)and her people reflects your wisdom.



There are many who may not support the ULFA, but, the most important thing is for all is to standby the people of Asom. We would like to ask you not to support the views and actions of the selfish ones who are just taking advantage of the situation. Instead, be with the majority and work for real peace to return to Asom.





Rubi Bhuyan







Central Publicity member, ULFA









   1. Re: Please take part in the opinion poll (Chan Mahanta)

   2. Re: Please take part in the opinion poll (Ram

 Sarangapani)



On 10/10/07, Chan Mahanta <

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On 10/11/07, Ram Sarangapani <<http://uk.f269.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

 >maybe a plebiscite is not a bad idea at all. atleast



>Now, what I am not sure of is being on ULFa's side is synonymous with seeking Assam's interests? :)







**** That is a pathetic spin Ram.



IF you are for an end to the conflict, and ULFA agrees to abide by the verdict of the people, why do you invent excuses like that to avoid the plebiscite, unless you really do not believe what you profess, that the people don't want sovereignty?





At 2:26 PM -0600 10/10/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

C'da,



You know me well enough to know that I don't carry water for anybody - GOI included.

And does it really matter where I stand?





Well, if you must, I don't like a plebicite. I seriously think its a red-herring for anyone interested in the well-being of Assam (both the pro/against sovereignty people).



I think the results of a plebicite will not be helpful to anyone. It will lead to a much bigger, and unmanageable mess from which Assam will never get out of.Each side will bicker and moan about fraud, etc and a toothless UN can't do a lick.



>Dilli has a billion people behind it. The people of Assam need yOU far more than Dilli does.



Thanks, C'da. But, you misunderstand, I am on Assam's side as opposed to being on Dilli's side.

Now, what I am not sure of is being on ULFa's side is synonymous with seeking Assam's interests? :)

And, C'da, Assam needs you more than they will ever need me.



--Ram





--Ram



On 10/10/07, Chan Mahanta <<http://uk.f269.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

That should pretty much place those who are for Assam's continued servitude in a huge majority and thus pave the way for a plebiscite to put an end to the speculations, wouldn't it?




Why even bother about Assam Public Works' house to house interrogation poll?


At 11:55 AM -0600 10/10/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

Jeeez.. only 5% support sovereignty and this movement? Thats bad even from a poll that one doesn't trust.



It is encouraging to note that that some 43% sent in their votes thru surface mail.



Any reasons why the PCG did not publish the results? Also, does this result in any way match up with those conducted by the Assam Public Works (or Service) group?




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