C-da

OK try this map:
http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/southwestmonsoon.htm

which shows that on June 1 South West monsoon Bay of Bengal branch 
simultaneously enter Kerala in the South and Imphal in NE India and then moves 
northwest wards reaching Delhi bu July 1.

Umesh

Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Re: [Assam] Monsoons and Global 
Warming -- Fish market- As At 8:32 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
 C-da, 
 You can trust me on this one -- the weblink you sent me is really pathetic and 
half baked.  
 
 
 

 **** Really? Awright! You are the expert, I am just a kharkhowa.
 

 So why don't you tell us what your conclusion is:
 

         Do you UMesh, a shining graduate of climatology/meteorology of Wiki U, 
therefore stand
         behind the notion , that those little tankers carrying monsoon 
moisture to Assam
         and the  contiguous areas , finding no one in the receiving rooms, 
double back on their
         sales route down the Brahmaputra valley on to the  Gangetic plains 
inhabited by
         poor Indians unable to pay for merchandise, go on to Delhi and 
Rajasthan to deliver their
         loads a month later?
 

 

 Is that what you learned?
 

 

 I know I won't get an answer to the question, but since you can't see what 
stared you on  your face; the website I sent a link for, showed the monsoon 
wind patterns that generate  from the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian sea.  It 
also showed the high and low pressure points in the south Asian region that 
usually cause  the  monsoon wind patterns that are considered NORMAL.
 

 The Wiki account , more than likely was written by a desi non-scientist. You, 
read it literally, like fundamentalists reads their scriptures.
 

 The wind patterns  that cause what cause rains in NE  and  the  West ands 
North Indian regions are different, even though they overlap.
 

 And the URL of the Indian meteorological  dept. that you sent triumphantly, 
does not tell anyone what the monsoon wind patterns are . It merely tells us 
when  monsoon arrives  in different parts of India.
 

 Some expert you are!
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 Bay of Bengal Monsoon comes to NE first -drops a lot of rain and drags over 
the Indo-gangetic plain slowly --raeching Thar desert area (westernmost last -- 
having no moisture left -- so dry deserts--  Thats how all Indian media reports 
.
 
  Having grown in the said desert it is common knowledge how lucky NE India is 
to be first to receive the clouds fresh from the sea.
 Still you might like to see the detailed map of the "Advance of Southwest 
Monsoon 2007" - if you scroll halfway down the webpage of 
http://www.imd.ernet.in/section/nhac/dynamic/endmonsoonreport2007.htm
 
 
 
 Umesh
 
 Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Re: [Assam] Monsoons and Global Warming -- Fish market- As Look up: 
 
 http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7o.html 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 At 8:00 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
 C-da,
 I may not be a knowall like you but I try to say what I have read somewhere. I 
read this in Indian textbooks and learnt from my father who has an interest in 
geography and has travelled all over the Himalays - NE portion to Western 
Himalayas .  Do not ask me to go there and prove it all - neither can you- we 
say what we have read-- maybe what you read was taught only at IITs .
 
 http://www.nature.com/news/2006/061127/full/news061127-12.html
 climat change
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon
 "The Bay of Bengal Branch of SW Monsoon flows over the Bay of Bengal heading 
towards North-Eastern India and Bengal, picking up more moisture from the Bay 
of Bengal. Its hits the Eastern Himalaya and provides a huge amount of rain to 
the regions of North-East India, Bangladesh and West Bengal. Cherrapunji, 
situated on the southern slopes of the Eastern Himalaya in Shillong, India is 
one of the wettest places on Earth. After striking the Eastern Himalaya it 
turns towards the West, travels over the Indo-Gangetic Plain, at a rate of 
roughly 1-2 weeks per state[citation needed], pouring raining all along its 
way" 
 Satisfied?? Or do you accuse me of cooking up the data here at wiki also?
 
 Umesh.
 
 Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
  If  we had to go by what is in the header, why do we even read what is in the 
body of the e-mail?
  
 It was not I who opened up with :
  
         >Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would 
know-----
  
 
 
 **** Where do you fancy yourself in? Those who have the slightest knowledge of 
monsoons in India or the clueless  bunch who fancy themselves the 'know-it-all' 
?
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 At 7:43 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
 C-da (Mr Know-all),
 
 Since you know everything you might look again at the subject header and tell 
us a few points about its main contents?
 You have a habit of going at a tangent esp when your pet issue of terrorist 
ULFA is challenged.
 
 Umesh
 
 Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
  I thought the insanity here was spewed by someone else who, being clueless 
about simple high-school geography , unaware of the direction of the main 
monsoons  that bring rains to the NE,  went on to assert:
  
 >Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would know----- The 
 >winds continue >westwards and causing floods in usually desert areas .
  
 What is this? Some new desi climatology? That the southwest monsoons, not 
being able to unload its moisture in the NE, swerves back to the west in a 
sudden acute angle move and go drop its load in Rajasthan?
  
 For your info, the monsoons that bring rains to Assam, is  different  from the 
one that brings rains to the Western Ghats or to Rajasthan or to Delhi and 
farther up. It is not the one that does a left-right-left-right and about -turn 
from Assam. Westrern/northwestern Indian monsoons don't happen until later June 
and early July, whereas the NE area monsoons arrive almost a month earlier.
  
 
 No, it is not because it takes that much time to take an about turn from Assam 
and marching thru the Gangetic plains arrives in Rajasthan a month later.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 At 7:04 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
 C-da,
 
 I expected something more sane from you. You are debating about a non issue - 
does it matter whether the wind come from St Louis , Missouri (your house) to 
reach Assam. The moot point is Assam has very less flood time - only a 
week!!!!!! Which is blown out of proportion by those who sy if flood is not 
tacled Assam cannot develop.
            Any pearls of wisdom from a supporter of ULFA like yourself. May I 
remind you ULFA is branded a terrorist organization by USA in 2005.
 
 How very patriotic of you!!!
 
 Umesh
 
 Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
  >Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would know that 
warm moisture laden winds >flow inwards towards Assam and rest of NE India in 
Spring onwards
  
 
 Does Umesh the renowned, Harvard trained climatologist know what the direction 
of the monsoon  winds that bring rains to Assam and the contiguous region are? 
Can he explain how it turns towards the west all of a sudden? It would be very 
interesting  to learn.
  
 But something tells me we will be deprived of that bit of Rajasthani  science.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 At 3:39 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
 Hi,
 
 While discussing with Ahsan-da Aziz the maker of the film 
http://www.sonam.net.tc/
 I learnt many things which might surprise some .
 
 For one despite having ample water Assam imports fish from South India - 
strange trade. The eggs are hatched in Assam , roe (young little fish) are 
raised in Assam's fish farm - then they are sent to Andhra Pradesh where they 
grwo and then brought all  the way back to be sold in Guwahati's fish markets ( 
a regular place where ULFA places the bombs and kills civilians and also at the 
vegetable market).
 
 About floods I am told it is a week long activity in Assam - only one week!! 
or ten days - and that due to global warming the moisture is transported to 
deserts of Rajasthan which are seeing unheard of floods in areas which never 
received any rains at all. Cherapoonji - world's wettest place has seen no 
rains since all that rainwater has shifted onwards to drop on Mumbai causing 
massive unheard of floods. 
               
 Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would know that warm 
moisture laden winds flow inwards towards Assam and rest of NE India in Spring 
onwards  and when they reach Himalayas they rise higher and cool down to form 
rain. Now it doesn't cool down enough so no rain for NE India for past 2 years. 
(which have seen ground water disappear over the years due to excessive 
population and irrigation) thus I am sure thse guys are not complaing about 
unheard of floods.
 
 Umesh
 
 
 
 
 
 
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