Hi C'da:
How are you doing?
You really sound like an irritated 'iskool-mastor' today who believes in
tough-love when it comes to teach/treat his students.
:)
“In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble
like a blade of grass”
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:16:58 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] Monsoons and Global Warming -- Fish market-
Assam's queer trade/ warming - Flood week fest - Sonam film maker
At 8:35 PM -0700 10/15/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-daOK try this map:
http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/southwestmonsoon.htm
**** I did. It showed the DATES of monsoon's onset in various parts of India.
Did this show the monsoon wind directions that would have validated your expert
opinion on how the SW monsoons visiting Assam and the NE doubles back ,
unable to unload its moisture where intended; over to the Gangetic plains and
on to finally unload it in Rajasthan and Delhi; like you
learned from your long studies at the world renowned Wiki U ?
Do you even know the basic mechanism of how these monsoon winds carry water and
why or where they unload them? Do you know how the Western Ghats or the
Aravalli ranges affect the monsoon rain patterns in Western and North Western
India , that an ordinary high school kid ought to know like WE did about the
Himalayas, the Garo and Khasi Hills and so forth?
which shows that on June 1 South West monsoon Bay of Bengal branch
simultaneously enter Kerala in the South and Imphal in NE India and then moves
northwest wards reaching Delhi bu July 1.
***** Those are not monsoon wind patterns for crying out loud! They are date
of arrival graphs.
Do you even read maps, graphs etc.? Sheeesh!!
UmeshChan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Monsoons and Global Warming -- Fish market- As
At 8:32 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
You can trust me on this one -- the weblink you sent me is really pathetic and
half baked.
**** Really? Awright! You are the expert, I am just a kharkhowa.
So why don't you tell us what your conclusion is:
Do you UMesh, a shining graduate of climatology/meteorology of Wiki U,
therefore stand
behind the notion , that those little tankers carrying monsoon moisture
to Assam
and the contiguous areas , finding no one in the receiving rooms,
double back on their
sales route down the Brahmaputra valley on to the Gangetic plains
inhabited by
poor Indians unable to pay for merchandise, go on to Delhi and
Rajasthan to deliver their
loads a month later?
Is that what you learned?
I know I won't get an answer to the question, but since you can't see what
stared you on your face; the website I sent a link for, showed the monsoon
wind patterns that generate from the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian sea. It
also showed the high and low pressure points in the south Asian region that
usually cause the monsoon wind patterns that are considered NORMAL.
The Wiki account , more than likely was written by a desi non-scientist. You,
read it literally, like fundamentalists reads their scriptures.
The wind patterns that cause what cause rains in NE and the West ands North
Indian regions are different, even though they overlap.
And the URL of the Indian meteorological dept. that you sent triumphantly,
does not tell anyone what the monsoon wind patterns are . It merely tells us
when monsoon arrives in different parts of India.
Some expert you are!
Bay of Bengal Monsoon comes to NE first -drops a lot of rain and drags over the
Indo-gangetic plain slowly --raeching Thar desert area (westernmost last --
having no moisture left -- so dry deserts-- Thats how all Indian media reports
. Having grown in the said desert it is common knowledge how lucky NE India is
to be first to receive the clouds fresh from the sea.Still you might like to
see the detailed map of the "Advance of Southwest Monsoon 2007" - if you scroll
halfway down the webpage of
http://www.imd.ernet.in/section/nhac/dynamic/endmonsoonreport2007.htmUmeshChan
Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Monsoons and Global Warming -- Fish market- As
Look up:
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7o.html
At 8:00 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,I may not be a knowall like you but I try to say what I have read
somewhere. I read this in Indian textbooks and learnt from my father who has an
interest in geography and has travelled all over the Himalays - NE portion to
Western Himalayas . Do not ask me to go there and prove it all - neither can
you- we say what we have read-- maybe what you read was taught only at IITs
.http://www.nature.com/news/2006/061127/full/news061127-12.htmlclimat
changehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon"The Bay of Bengal Branch of SW
Monsoon flows over the Bay of Bengal heading towards North-Eastern India and
Bengal, picking up more moisture from the Bay of Bengal. Its hits the Eastern
Himalaya and provides a huge amount of rain to the regions of North-East India,
Bangladesh and West Bengal. Cherrapunji, situated on the southern slopes of the
Eastern Himalaya in Shillong, India is one of the wettest places on Earth.
After striking the Eastern Himalaya it turns towards the West, travels over the
Indo-Gangetic Plain, at a rate of roughly 1-2 weeks per state[citation needed],
pouring raining all along its way"
Satisfied?? Or do you accuse me of cooking up the data here at wiki
also?Umesh.Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
If we had to go by what is in the header, why do we even read what is in the
body of the e-mail?
It was not I who opened up with :
>Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would
know-----
**** Where do you fancy yourself in? Those who have the slightest knowledge of
monsoons in India or the clueless bunch who fancy themselves the 'know-it-all'
?
At 7:43 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da (Mr Know-all),Since you know everything you might look again at the
subject header and tell us a few points about its main contents?You have a
habit of going at a tangent esp when your pet issue of terrorist ULFA is
challenged.UmeshChan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
I thought the insanity here was spewed by someone else who, being clueless
about simple high-school geography , unaware of the direction of the main
monsoons that bring rains to the NE, went on to assert:
>Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would know----- The
>winds continue >westwards and causing floods in usually desert areas .
What is this? Some new desi climatology? That the southwest monsoons, not being
able to unload its moisture in the NE, swerves back to the west in a sudden
acute angle move and go drop its load in Rajasthan?
For your info, the monsoons that bring rains to Assam, is different from the
one that brings rains to the Western Ghats or to Rajasthan or to Delhi and
farther up. It is not the one that does a left-right-left-right and about -turn
from Assam. Westrern/northwestern Indian monsoons don't happen until later June
and early July, whereas the NE area monsoons arrive almost a month earlier.
No, it is not because it takes that much time to take an about turn from Assam
and marching thru the Gangetic plains arrives in Rajasthan a month later.
At 7:04 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,I expected something more sane from you. You are debating about a non
issue - does it matter whether the wind come from St Louis , Missouri (your
house) to reach Assam. The moot point is Assam has very less flood time - only
a week!!!!!! Which is blown out of proportion by those who sy if flood is not
tacled Assam cannot develop.
Any pearls of wisdom from a supporter of ULFA like yourself. May I remind you
ULFA is branded a terrorist organization by USA in 2005.How very patriotic of
you!!!UmeshChan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
>Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would know that warm
>moisture laden winds >flow inwards towards Assam and rest of NE India in
>Spring onwards
Does Umesh the renowned, Harvard trained climatologist know what the direction
of the monsoon winds that bring rains to Assam and the contiguous region are?
Can he explain how it turns towards the west all of a sudden? It would be very
interesting to learn.
But something tells me we will be deprived of that bit of Rajasthani science.
At 3:39 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
Hi,While discussing with Ahsan-da Aziz the maker of the film
http://www.sonam.net.tc/I learnt many things which might surprise some .For one
despite having ample water Assam imports fish from South India - strange trade.
The eggs are hatched in Assam , roe (young little fish) are raised in Assam's
fish farm - then they are sent to Andhra Pradesh where they grwo and then
brought all the way back to be sold in Guwahati's fish markets ( a regular
place where ULFA places the bombs and kills civilians and also at the vegetable
market).About floods I am told it is a week long activity in Assam - only one
week!! or ten days - and that due to global warming the moisture is transported
to deserts of Rajasthan which are seeing unheard of floods in areas which never
received any rains at all. Cherapoonji - world's wettest place has seen no
rains since all that rainwater has shifted onwards to drop on Mumbai causing
massive unheard of floods.
Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would know that warm
moisture laden winds flow inwards towards Assam and rest of NE India in Spring
onwards and when they reach Himalayas they rise higher and cool down to form
rain. Now it doesn't cool down enough so no rain for NE India for past 2 years.
(which have seen ground water disappear over the years due to excessive
population and irrigation) thus I am sure thse guys are not complaing about
unheard of floods.UmeshUmesh Sharma
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