Anger???? Sensed anger in my previous mail when I was simply giving an example (then you proved me to be wrong!, it's just that simple). I doubt if any one that I know have been able to control anger and be patient as I have been in this life. I am way beyond this. Forgive me for being a little blunt here, still am not angry though!
“In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass” > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 > 23:32:09 -0500> Subject: Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] Support Tibet, (Water > sanity & justice is inseparable from 'ethno-cultural'> > One can sense your > anger. However, if you read the bold below, you will realize that your > response does not make sense showing Gandhi as an example because Gandhi was > not a king. > The issue was why Indian and Chinese rulers were not resorting > to Dialogue instead of War. The answer is, it is not in the tradition of our > rulers. Gandhi as well as Buddha and Christ donot count, because they were > not rulers. > Thanks> Barua> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alpana > B. Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "A Mailing list for people > interested in Assam from around the world" <[email protected]>> Sent: > Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:59 PM> Subject: Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] Support > Tibet, (Water sanity & justice is inseparable from 'ethno-cultural'> > > > > > >> Except for Ashoka, India does not really have any traditions of dialogue > or Ahimsa on the part of the royal class.> > > > What about Gandhi? He was > not part of any royal family, but was from India and from the recent years.> > > > >>attacks on Europe came from the Mongols, from Buddhist China.> > > > > And China is the main point of discussion here too. Why is India being > dragged here? > > General Question: India even went to the extent of > fighting with China to extend her support to Dalia Lama and to be on > principle. Shouldn't that be appreciated? > > > > Indian history is mostly a > history of wars. In fact these religions of the common people, whether > Buddhism or Taosim or Vaishnavism or Christianity for that matter, do not > really have any affect on the ruling class. Religions have been interpreted > time and again in all countries to justify wars. In the middle age, the most > devastating attacks on Europe came from the Mongols, from Buddhist China.> > > > > "Do not fear GodGive him your love because he needs itAnd forgive him > alwaysFor he will learn from your example"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:06:43 -0500> Subject: Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] > Support Tibet, (Water sanity & justice is inseparable from > 'ethno-cultural'/human sanity & justice)> > >They are supposed to have some > traditions to build upon.> > Except for Ashoka, India does not really have > any traditions of dialogue or Ahimsa on the part of the royal class. Indian > history is mostly a history of wars. In fact these religions of the common > people, whether Buddhism or Taosim or Vaishnavism or Christianity for that > matter, do not really have any affect on the ruling class. Religions have > been interpreted time and again in all countries to justify wars. In the > middle age, the most devastating attacks on Europe came from the Mongols, > from Buddhist China.> Rajen Barua> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "Chan Mahanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "A Mailing list for people > interested in Assam from around theworld" <[email protected]>> Sent: > Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:08 PM> Subject: Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] > Support Tibet, (Water sanity & justice is inseparable from > 'ethno-cultural'/human sanity & justice)> > > > >It is understandable in the > US of A ( please do not take it as a > >>dig... i have no intention of doing > that) of >George W Bush,> > > > > > *** Not at all Uttam. There is truth to > it. Bush-Cheney have taken us > > into a war under false pretenses.> > > > > But the difference here is that once the American people have figured > > > that out, they are not taking it lying down or turning a blind eye to > > > it, like Indian intelligentsia has been. How Bush/Cheney would love > > to > rule over a population like India's with desi-demokrasy as a foil!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 4:37 PM +0000 3/26/08, uttam borthakur wrote:> > >>Is not it strange Chandan Da that in the lands of Buddha, Ashoka ( > >>who > took up Buddhism to consolidate his empire), Confucius, Lao Tze > >>et al, > there is dearth of dialogues? It is understandable in the US > >>of A ( > please do not take it as a dig... i have no intention of > >>doing that) of > George W Bush, but it is really strange in India and > >>China. They are > supposed to have some traditions to build upon. I > >>believe they have > abandoned their traditions and is now totally > >>globalised (read > americanised).> >>> >>Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there is > merit to the > >>ancient adage that ' Charity begins at> >>home', then may I > suggest we start a similar, but even more vigorous> >>campaign to force > Indian Govt. to start a SINCERE negotiating> >>process in Assam with the > ULFA for example?> >>> >>If we can be so caring about Tibetan freedom > aspirations, why can't> >>we for those who are even closer to us,in > Nagaland, in Assam , in> >>Kashmir?> >>> >>Somehow Avaaz's zeal seems to be > driven less by concerns about human> >>rights of Tibetans than a thinly > veiled need to beat up on the> >>Chinese on grounds of Indian nationalism, > as could be easily surmised> >>from its similar campaign during the Burmese > crackdown on its> >>protesters while remaining mute witnesses to India's own > suppression> >>, often brutal, in Kashmir and in its NE holdings, unable to > utter a> >>word defending the human rights of those who are far closer to > home.> >>> >>Had to say it like it is!> >>> >>If only our intelligentsia > could have risen to it, India's own> >>problems could have been resolved > long ago. Now it holds the world's> >>record on the longest running > low-intensity warfares within its own> >>holdings, while singing praises of > non-violent resolution of such> >>conflicts thru dialogs.> >>> >>cm> >>> >>( > I am an ethnic Assamese)> >>> >>> >>> >>PS: I am ALL for Tibetan freedom as > well as for Taiwan. Always have> >>been, always will be.> >>But I can't > stand the hypocrisy that goes around in broad daylight.> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>At 5:44 AM -0700 3/26/08, bharat mansata wrote:> >>>Subject: Tibet > - support the Dalai Lama> >>>Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:21:22 +0530> >>>> > >>>> >>>Hi,> >>>> >>>I just signed an urgent petition calling on the Chinese > government> >>>to respect human rights in Tibet and dialogue with the Dalai > Lama.> >>>This is really important, and I thought you might want to take> > >>>action:> >>>> > >>>http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/98.php/?CLICK_TF_TRACK> > >>>> >>>After nearly 50 years of Chinese rule, the Tibetans are sending out> > >>>a global cry for change. 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