i'm afraid no alternatives were suggested - but i'm glad you pointed out the possibilities :-)
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >"Saccharum spontaneum" is a misnomer--" > > > *** There may be an element of truth to that too. Often one can find > that there is more than one botanical/biological name ( or even > English/Hindi/other vernacular language names) to a plant/ biological > specimen; particularly if it is a rare or unusual or not so widely > occurring one. Botanical names of most plants in the Indian > sub-continent were assigned by various European botanists. Many early > names were revised by other botanists later, or disputed or assigned > synonymous names. > > Therefore we have to remain open to the idea that any particular name > we come across as THE botanical name may NOT be the final word on it. > Echites frutescens is a good example. > > Botanical and even English names of a number of orchids from our > region similarly are disputed, doubted, re-named and so forth; > besides having more than one such name. Even Oxomiya names vary from > region to region within Assam. A good example, again is 'bhedai > lotaa', 'bhedeli-lotaa' and so forth. > > Finally I am curious about what was suggested as the correct > botanical name of 'konhua' (BTW it is not 'kohua'---which in Assamese > means 'one who suffers from chronic coughing'). We can look that up > and see if that too is a 'correct' name. > > Had I not looked 'konhua' up, I would have thought it is Pampas > grass (Cortaderia selloana), > see: http://www.thegardenhelper.com/pixpg/pampaspix.html > > > > > > At 12:25 PM +0530 4/28/08, Uddipana Goswami wrote: > >that is indeed kohua. in which case, my botanist-poet friend who said > >"Saccharum spontaneum" is a misnomer needs to be informed. thanks for > >pointing this out to me. i had used it as a footnote in a poem i had > >translated from axamiya. my apologies also to mr. chaliha. > > > > > > > >On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> At 11:11 AM +0530 4/26/08, Uddipana Goswami wrote: > >> >i wouldn't trust mr chaliha's dictionary with botanical names - it > has > >> >proved to be incorrect on many instances - the botanical name for > 'kohua' > >> >for example. > >> > >> > >> > >> *** It is entirely possible that a non-scientific dictionary may > >> contain errors on scientific terminology. So I always cross check > >> with other sources, if it is anything unusual or not a commonly known > >> name. > >> > >> But I have always found Aadhunik Oxomiya Xobdokwx to be extremely > >> helpful in finding English or botanical/biological names for flora > >> and fauna of Assam. In this instance--of 'bhedai-lotaa', I could not > >> find anything in any of the other reference sources that I have, > >> including the fairly comprehensive "Oxomor Gos-gosoni, Part 1" by > >> Ananda Dutta, that would have led me to its botanical name, much less > >> to names in other languages, had it not been for Aadhunik Oxomiya > >> Xobdokwx. > >> > >> I looked up "konhua" in Aadhunik Oxomiya Xobdokwx . It says the > >> botanical name is: Saccharum spontaneum, which when I looked up in > >> Google showed : > >> > >> > >> > >> > http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.celestine-india.com/pankajoudhia/Images/saccharum.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.celestine-india.com/pankajoudhia/po_gall.htm&h=108&w=68&sz=6&tbnid=-9Dm_8PULS0J:&tbnh=108&tbnw=68&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSaccharum%2Bspontaneum%2Bphotos&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=2 > >> > >> > >> Which is exactly what 'konhua' is, as could be seen in my photo > >> attached here. What I did I miss? > >> > >> cm > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:04 PM, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> Dear DR. Deepak Shah, > >> >> Welcome to this site. More welcome is your introduction in > detail. WE > >> all > >> >> are assamese/North East Indian from this heavenly GLOBE. The plant > is > >> BHEDEI > >> >> LATA grown anywhere in the NE.Yes its a medicinal plant.There are > >> thousands > >> >> of medicinal plant. > >> >> Will give you details soon as soon as you intorduce to know more > >> about > >> >> you please. > >> >> Sincere regards. > > > >> > >> >> Bikash Kumar Das > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Dr. Deepak Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Dear Friends, > >> >> I had got your email address from AsamNet.com and I understand > that > >> you > >> >> reside in Assam. > >> >> Well, I actually am writing this email because I need some help > from > >> you. > >> >> I wish to know a Hindi name of the plant known as Bhedelilot in > local > >> NE > >> >> lingo. This plant is widely available in NE region and is also > known > >> to have > >> >> medicinal importance. > >> >> I am doing my research on medicinal plants and is listing it and > will > >> >> publish it consolidated over WWW with its application and use > which > >> can help > >> >> people worldwide. > >> >> In hope of your help, awaiting your response. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Deepak Shah > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------- > >> >> Download prohibited? No problem. 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