Glad you caught on to the main idea A. See I am not nearly as radical as people like to paint me as . I do believe in being rational :-).
BTW, there is a whole lot more to this scheme than meets the eye. I will expose more of it shortly. Stay tuned. c-da On Nov 3, 2012, at 10:33 AM, "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <[email protected]> wrote: > That is a great detailed description, C-da. Thank you! > > And it does look scary. How can a natural process be totally stopped and all > the waters be stored into those dams It will be like cleaning the Augean > Stables. > > Also, even if it is done, if/when the embankments give way then the water > will be uncontrollable. This would be worse than the Riverlinking idea. I > don't see a solution there now. : ( > > > > > > > > > On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:26 PM, "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A: >> >> It is NOT so much about building dams as embankments. The idea proposed by >> Major Chandra is entirely based on building >> hundreds of miles of mega-embankments, on both sides of the Brahmaputra. He >> would create monster canals, impoundments, he calls Sagars, >> both sides of the Brahmaputra, ostensibly to prevent the tributaries from >> flooding the main river and its flood plains, which really is most of the >> Brahmaputra valley. His embankments are proposed to be 20 meters ( 66 ft) in >> height. >> >> If we draw a cross section of a 66' tall embankment with a 20 meter ( again >> 66') top, it will be like a mesa that is 66' wide at the top and 330 ft. >> wide ( 110 yds) >> at the base at the very least ( with a 1:2 slope, which is much too >> steep-ideally it should be 1:3). These will run from the western to the >> eastern end of the Brahmaputra valley, two of them to the north and two to >> the south. I call them the Mother of All Embankments. >> >> Now compare these embankments to the new highway that has been under >> construction four at least the past 5 years, from near Jagiroad to near >> Na-Gaon. I am not sure if it is done, YET! Did you see the environmental >> catastrophe this project created? And it was barely 3 meters tall and >> perhaps no more than 15 meters wide at the top. The Chandra Sagar project >> will be a hundred folds larger, if not more. Oh, one more thing: Chandra >> knows he will have to build an impervious core to these embankments. >> Impervious core will be concrete. I am no civil engineer, but an educated >> guess will be that this impervious core, 66' tall will be at least 10' >> thick. Can you imagine the volume of concrete he will need to build these - >> nearly 500 mile long for each embankment, multiplied by two for the north >> and an equally long , nearly a thousand miles, for the south AT THE VERY >> LEAST. I say at the very least, because we have not considered the lengths >> of these embankments both sides of the tributaries also that the scheme will >> require as well. >> >> All these are in the realm of the possible. But at a cost. And what might >> the costs be? >> >> A: First we should look at WHY the Brahmaputra and the tributaries flood so >> much. A very short and simple answer is that the rivers have become very >> shallow >> from silting. So to be able to carry they volume of water they need to >> expand, widen, causing flooding. The PRIMARY cause of the worsening flooding >> is SILTING of the rivers. >> >> So, why are these rivers getting silted? Where is the silt coming from? A >> simple answer is that it comers from Arunachal to the north and from the >> other hIll areas from the south. >> >> WHY you may ask. Again to put it simply, because of unrelenting >> deforestation and land disturbance ( earthmoving) in these hilly areas. The >> population there are building roads, settlements, farming more and so forth. >> >> Now then, what do you think will Chandra's embankment building do to the >> silting problem of these rivers? Simply put, it will exacerbate the silting >> problem by several hundred folds, not to mention the dust and other >> pollution that will be the norm all over Assam for decades to come. >> >> Not that Chandra does not know of the silting problem. He does. And he tells >> us that the tributaries will have to be fitted with dams to prevent the >> silt from getting into the >> Brahmaputra and that they will have to be DREDGED! >> >> Wait just a minute! Dredging did he say? I heard it is NOT possible. >> Apparently Indian and Kharkhowa experts have decided that dredging is not >> feasible since there is no place to deposit the dredged silt. I am sure you >> heard it too, right here in Assamnet. >> >> WHAT GIVES? Does it NOT sound fishy to you? IF Chandra Sagars are contingent >> on de-silting of the tributaries, why not start doing that to the MOTHER >> river, the Brahmaputra, to begin with? That will obviate the need for >> building the Chandra Sagars with the mother-of all embankments, which will >> uproot thousands of natives from the valley and render vast areas of fertile >> arable land permanently inundated and keep it under water year round. >> >> But that is NOT ALL. There is much more to it that I will point out, should >> it be difficult for you and others to imagine! >> >> Chandra Sagars are borne out of a far more insidious and unspoken motive. >> Guess what? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> If you did not like the RiverLinks project how would you like this project >>> which talks about building dams? >>> >>> Taking care of the flood problem which washes away all hopes for the >>> villagers/farmers every year, was the main reason that made me fall for it, >>> like many would! >>> >>> I won't deserve any praises since it isn't my project or anything, just was >>> not ready for the Guwal-gaali'. : ) >>> >>> Did not want to make mm-da mad either, as he also 'naakos kori disil >>> prothomotei' when he brought it up yesterday. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:17 PM, "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Aw come on A! Nobody is gonna bite you. What are you afraid of? Being >>>> right or wrong ? >>>> >>>> *I* promise NOT to make any snide or sarcastic comments if you are wrong. >>>> Instead I will try to explain why you may be wrong. >>>> On the other hand, if you make the right assessment, we will shower you >>>> with praise. Wouldn't that be nice? >>>> >>>> So, go ahead and do share your thoughts. We will all be the richer for it. >>>> Personally, I learn something everyday. Who knows, you >>>> may open my close mind! >>>> >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:04 PM, "Alpana B. Sarangapani" >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, i saw that and read some of it. Thanks to Babul. >>>>> >>>>> To be honest, I am just too afraid to comment now. : ) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:13 AM, "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So, Alpana, Babul has provided ALL the written material of the Oxom >>>>>> Xaagor scheme. The proposal describes all the benefits the scheme >>>>>> is expected to generate. The big idea is to block the tributaries from >>>>>> contributing flood water to the Brahmaputra. >>>>>> >>>>>> But that is not all! >>>>>> >>>>>> Major Chandra has also put together an exactly similar scheme to block >>>>>> ALL of the tributaries to the Ganga in Bihar as well, creating Bihar >>>>>> Sagars. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Note also the one line item: >>>>>> 12. *NO INVOLVEMENT OF *any other state. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sure you know why it is such a stand-out bit of info. He knows >>>>>> Assam's sensitivity about her waters being spirited away. >>>>>> >>>>>> How can one go wrong, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> ** Think about it, and see if there could be problems with the scheme. >>>>>> And if so what? >>>>>> >>>>>> c-da >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:57 PM, "Alpana B. Sarangapani" >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thul-mulkoi - in text version, can it be explained, what is this Oxom >>>>>>> -Xaagor that Mukul-da and now you are talking about, C-da? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:07 PM, "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Assamnetters, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Long time no talk. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Decided to return to the ol' 'juhalor mel' by announcing my latest >>>>>>>> blog site. I hope this one will last a bit longer than the previous >>>>>>>> attempts. >>>>>>>> Posted a picture to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://chanmanstl.tumblr.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is from my recent 10 day rafting/ camping trip down the Colorado >>>>>>>> River deep in the bottom of the Grand Canyon. It was an awesome trip. >>>>>>>> I hope to share some images and hopefully with a little description in >>>>>>>> the coming weeks and months. It is a departure from my usual >>>>>>>> fare in assamnet. But this may be more palatable than the never ending >>>>>>>> debates of the past :-). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Speaking of which, mm's note of this morning referring to Oxom Xagor >>>>>>>> is something that got me going a few days back. It is yet another >>>>>>>> one of those hare-brained proposals that ought to be nipped in the >>>>>>>> bud. I thought of posting it here, but since it requires graphic >>>>>>>> attachment, probably won't go thru this list. Maybe I will be able to >>>>>>>> post it thru some other forum. We will see. The author also prohibits >>>>>>>> publishing it without permission. 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