As you saw through and through: <Chandra Sagars are borne out of a far more insidious and unspoken motive. Guess what?>
Come out-Do We will all join in. Lots of Fun! mm > From: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:27:01 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Assam] Oxom Xaagor > > Glad you caught on to the main idea A. > > See I am not nearly as radical as people like to paint me as . I do believe > in being rational :-). > > BTW, there is a whole lot more to this scheme than meets the eye. I will > expose more of it shortly. Stay tuned. > > c-da > > > > > > > On Nov 3, 2012, at 10:33 AM, "Alpana B. Sarangapani" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That is a great detailed description, C-da. Thank you! > > > > And it does look scary. How can a natural process be totally stopped and > > all the waters be stored into those dams It will be like cleaning the > > Augean Stables. > > > > Also, even if it is done, if/when the embankments give way then the water > > will be uncontrollable. This would be worse than the Riverlinking idea. I > > don't see a solution there now. : ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:26 PM, "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> A: > >> > >> It is NOT so much about building dams as embankments. The idea proposed > >> by Major Chandra is entirely based on building > >> hundreds of miles of mega-embankments, on both sides of the Brahmaputra. > >> He would create monster canals, impoundments, he calls Sagars, > >> both sides of the Brahmaputra, ostensibly to prevent the tributaries from > >> flooding the main river and its flood plains, which really is most of the > >> Brahmaputra valley. His embankments are proposed to be 20 meters ( 66 ft) > >> in height. > >> > >> If we draw a cross section of a 66' tall embankment with a 20 meter ( > >> again 66') top, it will be like a mesa that is 66' wide at the top and 330 > >> ft. wide ( 110 yds) > >> at the base at the very least ( with a 1:2 slope, which is much too > >> steep-ideally it should be 1:3). These will run from the western to the > >> eastern end of the Brahmaputra valley, two of them to the north and two to > >> the south. I call them the Mother of All Embankments. > >> > >> Now compare these embankments to the new highway that has been under > >> construction four at least the past 5 years, from near Jagiroad to near > >> Na-Gaon. I am not sure if it is done, YET! Did you see the environmental > >> catastrophe this project created? And it was barely 3 meters tall and > >> perhaps no more than 15 meters wide at the top. The Chandra Sagar project > >> will be a hundred folds larger, if not more. Oh, one more thing: Chandra > >> knows he will have to build an impervious core to these embankments. > >> Impervious core will be concrete. I am no civil engineer, but an educated > >> guess will be that this impervious core, 66' tall will be at least 10' > >> thick. Can you imagine the volume of concrete he will need to build these > >> - nearly 500 mile long for each embankment, multiplied by two for the > >> north and an equally long , nearly a thousand miles, for the south AT THE > >> VERY LEAST. I say at the very least, because we have not considered the > >> lengths of these embankments both sides of the tributaries also that the > >> scheme will require as well. > >> > >> All these are in the realm of the possible. But at a cost. And what might > >> the costs be? > >> > >> A: First we should look at WHY the Brahmaputra and the tributaries flood > >> so much. A very short and simple answer is that the rivers have become > >> very shallow > >> from silting. So to be able to carry they volume of water they need to > >> expand, widen, causing flooding. The PRIMARY cause of the worsening > >> flooding is SILTING of the rivers. > >> > >> So, why are these rivers getting silted? Where is the silt coming from? A > >> simple answer is that it comers from Arunachal to the north and from the > >> other hIll areas from the south. > >> > >> WHY you may ask. Again to put it simply, because of unrelenting > >> deforestation and land disturbance ( earthmoving) in these hilly areas. > >> The population there are building roads, settlements, farming more and so > >> forth. > >> > >> Now then, what do you think will Chandra's embankment building do to the > >> silting problem of these rivers? Simply put, it will exacerbate the > >> silting problem by several hundred folds, not to mention the dust and > >> other pollution that will be the norm all over Assam for decades to come. > >> > >> Not that Chandra does not know of the silting problem. He does. And he > >> tells us that the tributaries will have to be fitted with dams to prevent > >> the silt from getting into the > >> Brahmaputra and that they will have to be DREDGED! > >> > >> Wait just a minute! Dredging did he say? I heard it is NOT possible. > >> Apparently Indian and Kharkhowa experts have decided that dredging is not > >> feasible since there is no place to deposit the dredged silt. I am sure > >> you heard it too, right here in Assamnet. > >> > >> WHAT GIVES? Does it NOT sound fishy to you? IF Chandra Sagars are > >> contingent on de-silting of the tributaries, why not start doing that to > >> the MOTHER river, the Brahmaputra, to begin with? That will obviate the > >> need for building the Chandra Sagars with the mother-of all embankments, > >> which will uproot thousands of natives from the valley and render vast > >> areas of fertile arable land permanently inundated and keep it under water > >> year round. > >> > >> But that is NOT ALL. There is much more to it that I will point out, > >> should it be difficult for you and others to imagine! > >> > >> Chandra Sagars are borne out of a far more insidious and unspoken motive. > >> Guess what? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> If you did not like the RiverLinks project how would you like this > >>> project which talks about building dams? > >>> > >>> Taking care of the flood problem which washes away all hopes for the > >>> villagers/farmers every year, was the main reason that made me fall for > >>> it, like many would! > >>> > >>> I won't deserve any praises since it isn't my project or anything, just > >>> was not ready for the Guwal-gaali'. : ) > >>> > >>> Did not want to make mm-da mad either, as he also 'naakos kori disil > >>> prothomotei' when he brought it up yesterday. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> > >>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:17 PM, "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Aw come on A! Nobody is gonna bite you. What are you afraid of? Being > >>>> right or wrong ? > >>>> > >>>> *I* promise NOT to make any snide or sarcastic comments if you are > >>>> wrong. Instead I will try to explain why you may be wrong. > >>>> On the other hand, if you make the right assessment, we will shower you > >>>> with praise. Wouldn't that be nice? > >>>> > >>>> So, go ahead and do share your thoughts. We will all be the richer for > >>>> it. Personally, I learn something everyday. Who knows, you > >>>> may open my close mind! > >>>> > >>>> :-) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:04 PM, "Alpana B. Sarangapani" > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yes, i saw that and read some of it. Thanks to Babul. > >>>>> > >>>>> To be honest, I am just too afraid to comment now. : ) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:13 AM, "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> So, Alpana, Babul has provided ALL the written material of the Oxom > >>>>>> Xaagor scheme. The proposal describes all the benefits the scheme > >>>>>> is expected to generate. The big idea is to block the tributaries from > >>>>>> contributing flood water to the Brahmaputra. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But that is not all! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Major Chandra has also put together an exactly similar scheme to block > >>>>>> ALL of the tributaries to the Ganga in Bihar as well, creating Bihar > >>>>>> Sagars. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Note also the one line item: > >>>>>> 12. *NO INVOLVEMENT OF *any other state. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am sure you know why it is such a stand-out bit of info. He knows > >>>>>> Assam's sensitivity about her waters being spirited away. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How can one go wrong, right? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ** Think about it, and see if there could be problems with the scheme. > >>>>>> And if so what? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> c-da > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:57 PM, "Alpana B. Sarangapani" > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thul-mulkoi - in text version, can it be explained, what is this Oxom > >>>>>>> -Xaagor that Mukul-da and now you are talking about, C-da? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:07 PM, "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello Assamnetters, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Long time no talk. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Decided to return to the ol' 'juhalor mel' by announcing my latest > >>>>>>>> blog site. I hope this one will last a bit longer than the previous > >>>>>>>> attempts. > >>>>>>>> Posted a picture to: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://chanmanstl.tumblr.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> It is from my recent 10 day rafting/ camping trip down the Colorado > >>>>>>>> River deep in the bottom of the Grand Canyon. It was an awesome > >>>>>>>> trip. > >>>>>>>> I hope to share some images and hopefully with a little description > >>>>>>>> in the coming weeks and months. It is a departure from my usual > >>>>>>>> fare in assamnet. But this may be more palatable than the never > >>>>>>>> ending debates of the past :-). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Speaking of which, mm's note of this morning referring to Oxom Xagor > >>>>>>>> is something that got me going a few days back. It is yet another > >>>>>>>> one of those hare-brained proposals that ought to be nipped in the > >>>>>>>> bud. I thought of posting it here, but since it requires graphic > >>>>>>>> attachment, probably won't go thru this list. Maybe I will be able > >>>>>>>> to post it thru some other forum. We will see. The author also > >>>>>>>> prohibits publishing it without permission. I can imagine why :-). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> cm > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> assam mailing list > >>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> assam mailing list > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> assam mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> assam mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> assam mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> assam mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> assam mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > _______________________________________________ > > assam mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > [email protected] > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
