Cool off people....its no use asking what indian govt has done or what assam has done for itself....rather one should see what we collectively can do, n by 'we' i mean both the state and the country can do for ourselves....simply by blaiming the indian nation for oppressing us assamese was never and will never be a solution....n for that using hefty words like sovereignty will never help. I dont think ULFA or any other such body has any right to ask for such things because they except for killing innocent people n here maximum are our own people and destroying our own resources have done nothing constructive. Before blaming one should do what one preaches...so it would be better if we do somethng constructive for our nation to uplift it and its people rather than breaking it away from India...we should have personal sovereignty we should try to help ourselves...u dont ask for indpendence u r independent...we are not to break down and say we dont want to stay with you ne longer no..we should help ourselves become better and for that we dont need ULFA or anybody its ourselves which we need. We are a nation full of talented people we are to show the world what we are. Is it somethng very tough? The other states have shown their caliber..how? Because they love their states I dont think we do.. just shouting ourselves hoarse that we love our nation doesnot prove that we do... we are to work towards it.
Kasturi
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 J Kalita wrote :
>So Rajiv, before you blame the ULFA and the demand for sovereignty for all ills, reflect and
>see what Indian rule to Assam has wrought. It has brought the Assam Nation to almost decimation. Part of that is
>the fault of those who constitute the Assam Nation, but I believe most of the reasons for the decimation of the
>Assam Nation identity lies with actions (such as division of Assam, encouraging insurgency when it suits
>its purpose, making Assam youth kill each other by creating SULFA and arming them, not stopping immigration from Bangladesh, encouraging immigration from India, steeping Assam in the corruption mode imitating oBihar and other Indian states, use of a repressive Hindi-speaking Army, complete cultural domination by Hindi media/entertainment leading to a lack of respect for and opportunities in the native languages, and a complete lack of concern for the survival of identity of the constituents of the Assam Nation, etc.) of the supremely powerful Indian Government compared to the current powers of the Assam Nation. The Indian Government simply doesn't care and actually would like to accelerate the destruction of the Assam identity so that Indian identity can flourish. I am completely opposed to this goal of the Indian Nation and that is why I ask for sovereignty of the Assam Nation. Let the Indian Nation show goodwill, then I will reciprocate. If you are a mouthpiece of the Indian Nation, tell me what it has done and will do for the benefit of the Assam Nation!
>
>Please be balanced on your views regarding sovereignty of the Assam Nation. It is necessary for our survival. If you don't feel that you are an interested party in the survival, growth and continued flourishing of the Assam Nation, you don't understand the problem and you are not qualified to talk on behalf of the Assam Nation.
>
>Jugal Kalita
>Colorado
>
>On Friday, December 10, 2004, at 01:02 AM, Rajib Das wrote:
>
>>Fair enough! There are enough rants against India
>>happening anyway on this board.
>>
>>But the questions I have asked in this post - about
>>their idealogy, the definitiveness of their vision -
>>are these pertinent or are these rants?
>>
>>I am not a fan of the Indian bureacracy. In the years
>>since the first promises of revolutions in our region,
>>however, much has changed. People in other regions
>>somehow have seized the moment and moved forward -
>>inspite of what some may call a debilitating system.
>>We have remained mired in old shibboleths. Our local
>>leadership within the Indian system and without (in
>>equal measure) is devoid of any vision. And yet, there
>>is never much serious discussion on it.
>>
>>Almost as if this "sovereignity" thing is a sacred god
>>in itself. Or for the rest of us a false god!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- J Kalita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Rajib,
>>>
>>>Why do you keep on ranting against the ULFA only?
>>>You should rant
>>>against the Indian Army who kill and torture
>>>innocents in large numbers
>>>and Indian bureaucrats (the establishment) who are
>>>mostly all corrupt
>>>to the bone in the same breath to have any semblance
>>>of reasonableness
>>>in your writings.
>>>
>>>Jugal
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thursday, December 9, 2004, at 06:36 PM, Rajib
>>>Das wrote:
>>>
>>>>>And ULFA was NOT 'discredited' when it emerged.
>>>Even
>>>>>now it is
>>>>>discredited only in certain circles. ULFA could
>>>not
>>>>
>>>>"Certain circles" indeed! Innocent civilians
>>>bombed
>>>>out and the level of extortion and the money
>>>hoarded
>>>>in Bangladesh are somewhat universal yardsticks
>>>for
>>>>defining discredited or not.
>>>>
>>>>In any case we are talking about the future and
>>>the
>>>>system for it. Not about what ULFA was 20 years
>>>back.
>>>>About what it is today and what it is capable of
>>>>tommorow versus what the current system is today
>>>and
>>>>what it is capable of tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>>So what is the verdict on the following about ULFA
>>>AS
>>>>THINGS STAND TODAY:
>>>>a. Its capability to define the "sovereign" nation
>>>it
>>>>is fighting for
>>>>b. Its capability or defined vision in terms of
>>>how it
>>>>will govern the sovereign nation in a way that is
>>>>fundamentally better than what it is today?
>>>>c. Its defined idealogy and the committment of its
>>>>cadre to its idealogy?.
>>>>d. Its capability to wage war "successfully"
>>>>e. And to cut it short, its record of respecting
>>>>people's opinion?
>>>>
>>>>Then there is the small point about whether it
>>>does
>>>>indeed represent the sovereign nation it has
>>>defined
>>>>for itself?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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