At 2:20 PM -0500 8/21/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
C'da

>**** How do you know that? What are the grounds for making that assertiuon or even assumption?

Because the newspapers themselves say that 'someone from xyz org. telephoned'. Then one obviously assume that either they don't really bother confirming such info or just cannot for some reason.


**** That is your conclusion without any substantiation. How do you know they don't ? And what if they call and it is confirmed by the 'bondho-bebosthapoks' say, hoy-diyok, aan mi bonfho disw'. Then what? And if they print unconfirmed news of a 'bondho', does that mean, one will happen based on one paper's account in a field of hundred's?

Is that where the problem lies? Bondhos happening on false or exaggerated claims of 'bondhos'?

This whole thing is completely beside the point Ram.











>Why should the media be held responsible to judge what 'bondho' is legitimate and deserving of >publicity, and what is not? Where do they get their authority or wisdom to judge that?

I did NOT say the media would have to make that judgement. But at the very least they should verify the info and then decide if the 'bandh notice' is newsworthy? The way the media prints each and every bandh notice, it must mean that the media considers them all newsworthy and also giving a lot of importance to such calls.

 >opinions--but NOT to be the self appointed or Rajen/Ram appointed censors.

Don't they have their own standards to judge if publicity ought to be given to mundane calls for bandhs? Who says anything about censorship?

>**** Your recommendations would be useful if the 'bondho' givers made you the arv biter of what >deserves to be one Ram :-).








As is obvious, no bondho giver is asking my opinion, (and nor should they), but unfortunately, they are not asking the opinion of the intelligensia in Assam or the people either.


***** Yes they are, by asking them to stay away from work. If the intelligentsia and/or the hordes of the ignoramus do not respect the call then it won't work, would it?


But you did not  go into WHY people MIGHT  pay heed to the call for a 'bondho'
as I explained below. What about that? That is the KEY isn't it?

(**** Believing is not the issue. Whether to comply with it IS. And the reasons for complying with them ARE. For example, if I manage to catch a bus to work but am stranded halfway for the rest of the day, I may not want to take the risk. Or if you fear being manhandled by ruffians, and knowing you cannot expect any assistance from law-enforcement authorities, would you be wise to venture out?)


Without going into the legitimacy of bandhs and strikes, you (and others) will >find that Assam has captured that market by a long shot.


**** Fair enough. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
But if that is true what do you surmise from it? What lesson do you glean?
What seems to the matter with the Assamese? Tell us, and we will examine that.

c-da









>**** That is a real good joke Ram :-), that Karnataka does not have 'bandhs', that it is merely a >unique Assamese disability.

Thanks, I did look up the item. The Judge was right. But reading from the item, it does seem that it was a particular, local case of strikes by film producers. The financial loss of Rs. 20 crores was a huge one, but the WHOLE state wasn't paralyzed in that one instance.

Yes, there are bandhs all over the country. Bad as they are, most are like strikes (banks, or mills). Most such strikes in Mumbai, would close down an area or locality not the entire city.

But it is extremely rare where the whole of Maharastra or Karnataka is completely shut down today.

Unfortunately, closure of the whole state is the norm during bandhs in Assam. In addition to that, banks in Assam will also join All-India calls for bank closures, or some strike by say Indian airlines.

When was the last time you or anyone else heard of a total Maharastra bandh or a Karnataka bandh? And when was the last you heard that from Assam? Without going into the legitimacy of bandhs and strikes, you (and others) will find that Assam has captured that market by a long shot.

Once we have that nailed down, we could discuss whether or not such calls are justifiable or necessary.

--Ram
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