Ah! I understand better. I was thinking you were meaning the individual messages were useless. But the problem is filter out the __important__ ones. Looks like my MVS SYSLOG when I start up CA7 after an IPL. There is so much junk coming out of CA7 that I can't find anything which might actually be important. To a lesser extent, it happens when I start up 3 or more CICS regions at the same time. I've learned not to do that any more! <grin>.
I sometimes use CA-OPS/MVS to "solve" this by using a rule to suppress some messages even from the SYSLOG. They then only show up in the JESSYSMSG (or whatever its called) of the task. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * [email protected] * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Messages - Was MVC with 2nd operand length > > It's a generic term :) > > Picked at sorta random and not picking on the product. There > are not errors in this patch. I am also not sure how I would > improve it. All the information is useful or potentially > useful. And, there are times when filtering out the relevant > message from a morass of traditional sys/job log messages is > equally troublesome. > > MSMF0132I - CA MSM has mounted MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT8 to > /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroot/DatabaseM/CA/CA_1_Tape_Management_-_MV > S/11.5/SP06/ > ATACOM/AD_XPRESS_PROD_TAPE/07_05_2010 with parameters aggrgrow. > MSMF0137I - Software catalog USS file system > MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT8 is mounted to > /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroot/DatabaseM/CA/CA_1_Tape_Ma > agement_-_MVS/11.5/SP06/DATACOM/AD_XPRESS_PROD_TAPE/07_05_2010. > MSMF0028I - Verifying whether CA MSM software catalog has USS > file system MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT10 mounted to /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroo > /DatabaseM/CA/CA_1_Tape_Management_-_MVS/11.5/SP06/VANTAGE_GMI > /25_03_2010. > MSMF0125W - Software catalog USS file system > MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT10 is not mounted to > /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroot/DatabaseM/CA/CA_1_Ta > e_Management_-_MVS/11.5/SP06/VANTAGE_GMI/25_03_2010. > MSMF0130W - Attempting to mount software catalog USS file > system MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT10 to mount point > /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroot/Dat > baseM/CA/CA_1_Tape_Management_-_MVS/11.5/SP06/VANTAGE_GMI/25_0 > 3_2010 in the security context of the CA MSM server with parameters: > ggrgrow. > MSMF0132I - CA MSM has mounted MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT10 to > /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroot/DatabaseM/CA/CA_1_Tape_Management_-_MV > S/11.5/SP06 > VANTAGE_GMI/25_03_2010 with parameters aggrgrow. > MSMF0137I - Software catalog USS file system > MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT10 is mounted to > /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroot/DatabaseM/CA/CA_1_Tape_M > nagement_-_MVS/11.5/SP06/VANTAGE_GMI/25_03_2010. > MSMF0028I - Verifying whether CA MSM software catalog has USS > file system MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT88 mounted to /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroo > /DatabaseM/CA/CA_1_Tape_Management_-_MVS/12.0/0000/CA_1_PRODUC > T_PACKAGE/05_04_2011. > MSMF0125W - Software catalog USS file system > MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT88 is not mounted to > /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroot/DatabaseM/CA/CA_1_Ta > e_Management_-_MVS/12.0/0000/CA_1_PRODUCT_PACKAGE/05_04_2011. > MSMF0130W - Attempting to mount software catalog USS file > system MSMUSER.MSM3SERV.MSMT88 to mount point > /cai/msmserv/mpm/scroot/Dat > baseM/CA/CA_1_Tape_Management_-_MVS/12.0/0000/CA_1_PRODUCT_PAC > KAGE/05_04_2011 in the security context of the CA MSM server with par > > Dave Gibney > Information Technology Services > Washington State University > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER- > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of McKown, John > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:30 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Messages - Was MVC with 2nd operand length > > > > I'm curious. Do you have an example of "fluffiness"? I will > grant that z/OS > > traditional parsing methods for UNIX output can be a bit > difficult. But it is not > > that difficult in something like REXX. We are used to > "column oriented" > > output. Where a field value starts at a given offset and is > a given length, with > > characters being left justified, and numbers being right > justified with aligned > > decimal points. In my parlance, "card oriented" or perhaps > "paper report" > > oriented. UNIX output is often designed for human > consumption, more like > > reading text. And, when meant for passing on to other > programs, tends to be > > "delimited" by things such as tabs (a favourite of mine). > > > > I'm a bit of a UNIX liker (Linux user for about 10 years > now. M$ free for about > > 4, except at work). z/OS is great for many things. But for end-user > > interactives, I will take UNIX over even VM/CMS. TSO is not > even in the same > > race, IMO. I.e. a BASH UNIX prompt beats the crap out of > line mode TSO. The > > only good thing in TSO, to me, is ISPF. z/OS UNIX would be the cat's > > meow|pajamas if IBM had used the GNU tool set instead of their own > > versions. Again, IMO. > > > > -- > > John McKown > > Systems Engineer IV > > IT > > > > Administrative Services Group > > > > HealthMarkets(r) > > > > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 > > (817) 255-3225 phone * > > [email protected] * www.HealthMarkets.com > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain > confidential or > > proprietary information. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact > > the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the > original message. > > HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products > underwritten and issued by > > the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The > Chesapeake Life > > Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of > > TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:51 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Messages - Was MVC with 2nd operand length > > > > > > I really like mixed case, but I find the variable length > > > nature of Unix (well probably C/C++) output adds to the > > > difficulty of quickly determining the useful information in > > > the useful message often buried in a massive amount of fluffiness. > > > Probably just me :) > > > > > > Dave Gibney > > > Information Technology Services > > > Washington State University > >
