Seymour, you said that POPS does not explain how to symbolically encode 
instructions. What other manual tells you how to code instructions? Tell us 
where the MVC instruction is documented outside of the POPS? I used PLO as an 
example because anyone can code MVC without looking at the manual. if the POPS 
incomplete, then contact IBM to correct the POPS. For me, PLO was adequately 
described for using it correctly.    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 02:21:25 PM 
PDT, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 Water is wet. There is no need to refute claims that nobody made.

PLO? PoOps describes the layout of the data, not the DCs needed to generate 
them.

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From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <[email protected]> on behalf 
of Jon Perryman <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Variable symbol without leading &

 If the POPS does not explain how to symbolically code each instruction, then 
point us to the manual that does. For instance, what manual tells me how to 
code the PLO instruction with multiple syntax variations. As for pseudo-ops, 
they do not generate machine code but instead are assembler control statements 
(e.g. eject). As for mnemonics, only a few are specifically documented in the 
HLASM reference (e.g. BNZ and JNZ). The vast majority of mnemonics are macro's 
documented in product specific manuals and to a small extent OPSYN. The classic 
example is the toolkit replacing branch instructions with jump instructions.
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 11:11:41 AM PDT, Seymour J Metz 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 No, PoOps is an architecture manual. It explains instruction formats and 
semantics; it does not explain how to symbolically encode them, much less 
explaining all of the pseud-ops.

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From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <[email protected]> on behalf 
of Charles Mills <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Variable symbol without leading &

The "other manual" for the Assembler is Principles of Operation.

If you want to know how COBOL MOVE works, you look at the COBOL Language 
Reference.

But if you want to know how MVC works, you don't look at an assembler manual, 
you look at Principles.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Abe Kornelis
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 10:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Variable symbol without leading &

Jon,

I've heard others make that remark before: HLASM is actually two languages.
I find the distinction rather arbitrary - both aspects of HLASM are
intimately interconnected.

As Mr. Metz correctly remarked, there is only a single Language
Reference Manual for HLASM.

  

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