>>>> upgraded to .16
>
>> Ok, my 1 day stats are quite good with .16
>> Memory use dropped 50% and so did AVG cpu usage.
>
> Hi there Marco (r u from .it ?) 

Ok, this is an easy question, YES !

> happy to hear .16 solved some issues
> for you; just some questions, in an attempt to clear some dark spots...
> 
> Is your ASSP running on a dedicated box/VM ?

.16 is on a dedicated test box, a really old server. It does no bayesian
check, no collecting a no AV, so it's quite fast. 

> How much RAM has the machine and how many/which type CPUs ?

A venerable pentium III with 768kb ram.

> Did you try scratching your ASSP config (after updating) and then
> rebuilding it (ok, it's tedious [<it>una rottura di balle</it>] but I
> found that, more often than not, that solves a lot of strange issues) ?

Definitely not. I just switched assp.pl, reboot and solved all my problems

> Are your Perl modules up-to-date ?

PPM UPDATEd a few weeks ago + I tried a few times the .pl install script.
But there are a few issues with the script not updating all modules correct.


> Are you using external DNS servers or local ones ?
Both, and dns lookup speed is not a issue.

> Are you using an AV scanner (aside from ASSP clamd) on the system ?
No AV, not even clamd on that system (mail goes to a second server for
antivirus, uribl and additional tests, before reaching a third MTA)

> sorry for all the questions, just trying to figure out 
> "where to look" and attempt to nail the source for your CPU issues :)

No more CPU and RAM issues with .16

There is a serious issue here. More than this (solved in .16) I switched
back to the latest 1.3x for 4 days and that particular version (downloaded
last Thursday) had a similar problem. 
I used that version for just 4 days, so I can't tell for sure, but there is
a chance the bug was backported to 1.3.9.x too !

Older 1.3.9 version (before July, 15) were perfect for me. So what I know is
:

- 1.3.9 (before mid July) = no cpu and ram issues
- 1.3.9 (last week !) = some cpu and ram issues (4 days test)
- 1.3.4.1.1.10 (July) = ram and cpu troubles
- 1.3.4.1.1.16 = no cpu and ram issues (1 day test)

I can't test both the latest 1.3.9.x and 1.4.1.1.16 , but maybe fritz knows
about the problem.

My 2 eurocents are that the only problem was a memory leak eating (on my
setup) about 100mb ram per day. And that was causing cpu issues too. Fixed
in .16 where perl.exe ram usage doesn't keep growing. And I think that
problem has been caused between July 15 and aug 20 

>> By the way, I don't use bayes, so I think that 
>> having a monolithic assp.pl

> Uh... you DON'T use bayes ? How comes ? 

Useless with my filtering approach. 

> I found the bayes filter to be really effective (all in all the very 
> early versions of ASSP I used *only* had the bayes filter); 

Different strategy, good if it works for you.

> also, 1.4 still needs the rebuildspamdb as far as I
> can tell, so I can't understand your comment...

In my setup (no bayesian filters, no collecting, no griplist) rebuildspam is
useless, and I fear that being incorporated in assp.pl just causes problems

> I also confirm the additional finding that .16 gives +50% avg message
> processed per day than 1.3.9x  but I can't tell why.

> That *may* be a bug, but I don't think it's a "serious" one, so for the
> Moment I'll live with it and wait for a fix (if really needed) from Fritz
:)

That means 2 things, or a change in test orders between 1.3 and 1.4 or a
nasty bug causing many servers to retry, retry, retry and never get the 5xx.

I already had a similar problem with maxRealSize returning an error code 55x
but some server just kept retrying and retrying. Not nice when have to
process too-large attachments many times. I just solved it setting a lower
msg size limit in my real MTA. Don't know the error code it returns, if it
drops the connection or what it does, but that solved the problem. ASSP just
didn't suit my needs for msg size limiting. 


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