Just send me the code changes.

Thomas




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OK, you're just taking me too literally.  I was saying "us dummies"
trying (unsuccessful) to be funny by jabbing myself in the gut.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Eckardt/eck
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there.
>
> I will never do any think for dummies - just give the child an other 
name!
>
> Thomas
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>>>Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there.
>>No - this is a professional version !
>
> I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but how are we supposed
> to have known, short of looking at the code, what that norm number
> means?
>
> I don't mean to argue, just discuss.  I'll write the code and provide
> it here, if you don't want to use it, that's fine (always) - no hard
> feelings.
>
> You seem to agree with me at least in part - if there's a problem with
> the norm, you already give a great pointer like this:
>
> Corpus norm:    0.1074
> Corpus norm should be between 0.6 and 1.4
>
> Recommendation: You need more spam messages in the corpus.
>
> I'm just saying that if it is 0.67 that we should have
> corpus norm: 0.6700 (sightly ham heavy)
>
> You're already putting things in each and every rebuild log like:
>
> Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address: 
Enabled
> **Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the corpus!**
>
> I'm not sure why you'd feel that this 2 line reminder is needed in
> every log, but a good reminder of what the corpus norm number means
> (which is very important IMHO) isn't a good idea.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Thomas Eckardt/eck
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there.
>>
>> No - this is a professional version !
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
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>> K Post <[email protected]>
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>> First, holy cow!  Thanks for all of those changes in 2.0.1 rc 0.5.16.
>>
>> 1) Whitelisting emails are now working.  That's huge.
>>
>> 2) I found the issue with the embedded analyze info in the ham/spam
>> reports.  If "Spam and Ham Reports will trigger an additional Analyze
>> Report (DoAdditionalAnalyze)" is set to send a report, doesn't matter
>> to whom, then a report is generated AND in the ham/spam reply there's
>> an analysis too.  This is true in 0.5.16.
>>
>> Like this:
>>
>> Thank you for your not-spam report.
>> Your report will help ASSP better detect spam messages in the future.
>>
>>
>> Subject: The message subject
>> Feature Matching:
>>
>> Whitelist: '[email protected]'
>>
>> Bayesian Analysis:
>> Bad Words:Bad Prob                                               Good
>> Words:Good Prob
>>
>> Totals:
>>
>>
>> Spam/Ham Probabilities:
>>
>>
>> Spam Probability:
>>  probability 0.5000
>>
>>
>> If I set DoAdditionalAnalyze to none, then this report doesn't appear
>> in the reply.  I want a report to go to the sender and an analyze to
>> me, but i don't want the analyze in the user reply.
>>
>>
>> 3) On occasion, it appears that there are duplicate whitelist status
>> lines like this:
>>
>> [email protected] is not on Whitelist
>> [email protected] is not on Whitelist
>>
>> In this example original email that address was the to and reply-to.
>>
>>
>> 4) While we're on this topic, I think it would be better if in the
>> ham/spam report replies if we changed it so the original subject
>> appears in parentethis.  So instead of
>> Spam Report Received Original Subject
>> it would be
>> Spam Report Received (Original Subject)
>>
>> It's just easier to read that way.  "Spam Report Received" is what we
>> have the subject configured as fyi.
>>
>>
>> 5) Last, with Outlook 2007, with the report emails (and other emails
>> from ASSP, like rebuild reports), I'm getting "Extra line breaks in
>> this message were removed."  In #3 above, those two whitelist report
>> lines were actually on the same line.  The message that we put for
>> not-spam reports:
>>
>> Thank you for your not-spam report.
>> Your report will help ASSP better detect spam messages in the future.
>>
>> which is on 2 lines in the editor (lines 2 and 3, with 1 being the
>> subject), shows as one line.
>>
>> In the rebuild reports most lines start on their own line, but those
>> that are supposed printed on 2 lines like
>> Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address:
> Enabled
>> **Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the corpus!**
>>
>> Which appears on 2 lines in the admin editor, but as
>>
>> Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address:
>> Enabled **Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the
>> corpus!**
>>
>> in outlook 2007.
>>
>>
>> (ok, one more thing, unrelated)  in the rebuild log, it would be nice
>> when printing the corpus norm, if we indicated that, 1 is perfect,
>> less indicates that the corpus is ham heavy, more indicates that the
>> corpus is spam heavy.  between .6 and 1.4 is an acceptable range.  How
>> about doing something like:
>>
>> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm:          1.1248 (slightly spam heavy)
>> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm:          0.9000 (slightly ham heavy)
>> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm:          0.0548 (very ham heavy)  - and
>> print
>> the existing warning
>> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm:          1.9548 (very spam heavy)  - 
and
>> print
>> the existing warning
>>
>> I may actually have the ham/spam ratio backwards, which emphasises my
>> point.  Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there.
>>
>> Thanks for keeping these revisions coming out so frequently and for
>> implementing so many of my suggestions.  ASSP just keeps getting
>> better and better.
>>
>>
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